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Going wide on Exits!

Discussion in 'Scrambler Talk' started by Armo, Apr 11, 2017.

  1. Armo

    Armo Active Member

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    Never had this problem before but on the Scrambler at my favorite roundabout it runs really wide, I go in at the same point as all my other bikes, steady throttle, nice lean angle and speed but it runs Wide! Would increasing the preload on the rear Help? I've got the maxton conversion front and rear, I've never touched it or ever set up suspension before.
    Thanks for any advice in advance.
     
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    Are you letting up on the throttle at any point in the turn or braking at all? If you slow down, the bike will straighten up and you will end up going wide. It's also possible you just need a tighter angle. Roundabouts can be tricky if you come in too hot and are forced to decelerate.

    Very unlikely it has anything to do with the bike mechanically speaking. Mount a gopro or phone to your helmet or jacket and take some video to review.

    What are the other bikes you are comparing it to? You might just need to lose the comparison and take a fresh approach.
     
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    Hi,
    Thanks for the reply,
    Defo not braking but maybe slowing slightly, good idea I'll stick my gopro on (if I can find it from my mountain biking days ).
    The other bikes were gsxr 600/750, monster s2r 1000, zxr636, bandit, cbr400 all would allow me to go round and round the same roundabout with no issues and all with minimal chicken strips.
    These were a few years ago and Im now heading towards 50 with arthritis in both hips which won't help but shouldn't send it wide.
    It could be that it's more up right and I need to adjust my way of riding plus I do more distance with the wife on the back which has altered the way I ride as keeping to the speed limit and not moving around on the bike. (I'm not wanting to go low with pillion).
    Cheers
     
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    Jack up the rear suspension preload. Even just too see if it helps.
     
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    Yeah might record how many turns i dial in and if I can feel any difference.
     
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    I had the same on my Desert Sled on my first ride. I prefer my bikes to steer neutral, leaning towards a light oversteer, not understeer.

    I added about 15mm of preload on the shock collar. Part of this just to offset my weight, the average Italian testrider weighs closer to 150lbs, while I am around 210-220lbs. But also the quicken up the steering.

    These 15mm did it for me. It's perfect now. It just goes where I'm looking, and doesn't need any extra steering input.

    And to be honest, I think part of this is to blame to the wide rear tire (especially on the "regular" Scrambler), 180/55 is kind of wide and flat.
     
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    Thanks for that, I'll give it a go on my next outing, see if I can go round the roundabout without been forced to exit early.
     
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    your sitting more upright Push Harder
     
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    I agree with the above - coming off the throttle or braking stands the bike up and it drifts wide. Just keep on the throttle and see what happens - you don't need to go mad.
     
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    Or trailbrake going in. Settles the bike on the suspension. Not too much or you'll lowside but don't they have ABS anyway? Dunno...it's never kicked in for me. Or go hard on the throttle as suggested by faster riders than me but I am a bit of a sook.
     
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    Too wide on exit means not enough compression damping on the rear. Not much you can do about with the OEM shock though.
    Some here is some good reading about suspension set up.
     
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    Excuse my lack of knowledge but does that mean the rear is squatting down too much?, so with increasing the preload help? The rear shock is a Maxton and fronts have the Maxton inners.
     
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