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Discussion in 'Ducati Scrambler: Desert Sled' started by rangerover, May 15, 2017.

  1. rangerover

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    God morning fellow sufferers WORWIDE.

    As a result of messages to and from you people , I have been in touch with 4 ECU remap `specialists`.
    Their prices vary from £370 to £450 and would take a day to complete ......

    My son says `you have spent too much already trying to make the bike correct , it should be ride able from day one .
    He contacted DUCATI UK ( SILVERSTONE ).
    They in turn ask ME to send in a letter listing ALL probs ,including any at point of sale .
    (WELL THAT IS ANOTHER STORY ))
    As a matter of protocol ,I sent my E-MAIL to my main dealer ,this was sent last week .
    Today ( Monday ) I opened my computer fully expecting an acknowledgement ( at least )
    fraid not , not even a `yes we have received etc etc `.

    I have received though an E-MAIL from a company with the amuseing name of HAMMMER and TONGS .
    They say THE ONLY way make the Scrambler correct IS a REMAP .

    I visited SMC in Sheffield on Friday ,and spoke to a SMC DUCATI `parts/workshop` manager re Scrambler /Desert Sled throttle parts .
    His reply is :- ALL Scramblers and Sleds share the SAME throttle assembly ( from the grip to the throttle body )
    ALL Scramblers share the same ECU.
    THE SLED has a totally different ECU.

    My Scrambler throttle ( at the twistgrip ) takes 1/4 turn from off to fully open .

    There was a Scramber Classic ,a Full Throttle and a Desert Sled on show SMC , I tried all 3 twist grips .
    = CLASSIC = 1/4 TURN
    =FULL THROTTLE 5/8 TURN
    =DESERT SLED 5/8 TURN.

    I showed this to `parts/workshop `manager .
    As to why the differences he was `AT A LOSE `

    I GIVE UP .
    rangerover
     
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    Get a DS throttle tube
     
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    Thank you SIR, you seem to know THE answer .
    Please explain the difference ,the working should be self explanatory .What is the part number.
    Is it easy to fit .
    What a result .
    rangerover .
     
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    The 2016 throttle tube is linear.

    The 2017 tube, as fitted on the Sled is non linear. Very soft initially, and progresses to agressive at bigger openings. Works a charm.

    Or else google for G2 throttle tamer.

    Serious, this is easy to solve
     
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    Hello Max Kool . I have phoned SMC Sheffield and asked availability of a DS throttle tube .
    I phoned THEM cos I was not sure which is the tube in question .
    THEY in turn had NO idea as they only deal in part numbers .
    Therefore Max KOOL `I` must ask YOU to describe the `tube` .
    ( Is it the throttle mechanism at the twist grip .)
    If a quick fix I will be able to sort asap .
    I do have aG2 throttle tamer fitted .
    rangerover
     
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    Just a FYI, below are two pictures.

    The first one picturing the oruginal throttle tube, which is fitted to any 2015-12016 Scrambler, together with the G2 throttle tamer with the 600 cam, which is the tamest cam they offer. You can clearly see the initial radius of the G2 cam starts with a smaller diameter. This makes the initial throttle response more lazy.

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    Here below we see the tube as fitted to the Desert Sled. Starts out very mellow for the first 60 degrees or so, and only after that develops a larger radius. Pretty abrupt by the way. This is how Ducati solved the snatchy throttle response at lower throttle openings.

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    Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find the part number for the Desert Sled throttle. Your dealer should be able to find the part number for this, and ask specifically for the 2017 Desert Sled model, for they ARE different (pretty sure they used this one also on the new Cafe Racer). I read somewhere the complete throttle assembly sells for around 90 bucks.
     
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    Wait, what, you have the G2 tamer fitted? With which cam? the 600?
     
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    I believe this is the throttle assembly you need: #65420461A

    Apparently this is the new throttle from the Desert Sled (but check this part no. with your dealer!)
     
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    The reason for this is that they've updated the replacement part numbers on all scramblers to MATCH the part number of the new DS throttle tube. If you go to buy a new throttle tube from the dealer for ANY scrambler (assuming it's new stock) it should be the new Desert Sled version, part number 65420461a. At least this is the way I understand it from a conversation I had with the parts guy earlier today.
     
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    You could get a full Termi upmap key - for $2400 AUD they throw in a great exhaust system that sounds like a Ducati for free.
     
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    Mine feels more snatchy just reading this post!! And I didn't have an issue.
     
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    Does it feel more snatchy or smell more snatchy?
     

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