[ElectroMoto]

Anyone know if they've made any changes to Scrambler for the 2016 model year?

 

[Slaine]

No, same as last year.

 

[ELVISTO]

That's what I was told too, no change, ( small price increase)

 

[JET]

What's going to happen in 2017 though I wonder - the 2015-16 bike isn't Euro 4 compliant. That means that either they'll have to make significant changes or they won't be able to sell it in Europe next year (assuming that I understand the regulations correctly).

 

[BrassKnuckles]

I'm hearing rumblings of taking the old Monster 1100 motor and wedging it there to compete with the BMW Scrambler's larger motor.

 

[kopper]

That's what I was told too, no change, ( small price increase)

yeah my dealer told me the same

he told me in November 2015, "you are going to get a 2016 model with 2015 price..."

 

[Joooooooosh]

What's going to happen in 2017 though I wonder - the 2015-16 bike isn't Euro 4 compliant. That means that either they'll have to make significant changes or they won't be able to sell it in Europe next year (assuming that I understand the regulations correctly).

I'm willing to be corrected but my understanding is that any model available in 2016 can be produced under Euro 3 rules until 2019.

Only new models introduced from 2017 onwards have to comply immediately.
This year is expected to be a bumper year for new bikes and updated models for that reason. Gives manufacturers a couple more years to to develop new engines and raise the R&D cash.

So Ducati could continue making the Scrambler in it's current form until 2019. This is what I expect, maybe with a few minor tweeks here and there.

 

[JET]

I'm willing to be corrected but my understanding is that any model available in 2016 can be produced under Euro 3 rules until 2019.

Only new models introduced from 2017 onwards have to comply immediately.
This year is expected to be a bumper year for new bikes and updated models for that reason. Gives manufacturers a couple more years to to develop new engines and raise the R&D cash.

So Ducati could continue making the Scrambler in it's current form until 2019. This is what I expect, maybe with a few minor tweeks here and there.

I thought it was that new models must be Euro 4 compliant from the start of this year (2016) and existing models by the start of next year (2017).

See EU: Motorcycles: Emissions - Transportpolicy.net for class L3e

 

[Joooooooosh]

I thought it was that new models must be Euro 4 compliant from the start of this year (2016) and existing models by the start of next year (2017).

See EU: Motorcycles: Emissions - for class L3e

Thanks, a year late and I'm not sure where I got 2019 from.

So at least we know the Scrambler as we know it, will have to be updated before the start of 2017, because the 2v air cooled engine currently in use, isn't going to cut it for Euro 4.

Good news is that it might make our bike more collectable.

I'm going to assume there is already an updated engine under development, or maybe it will just get a derivative of the 821 from the monster. I'm sure the Scrambler family will have expanded by that point as well.

I'm guessing we'll end up with a base model Sixty2 400cc, current 800cc-ish middle and a new higher performance model, that shares the Hypermotard engine and competes more directly with the likes of the Yamaha XSR900.

Makes sense, because the XSR might steal people like me, who might want more performance after a few years with the current Scrambler. I'm hope I'm right because I'd love to stay on a Ducati.

 

[N0ddie]

Makes sense, because the XSR might steal people like me, who might want more performance after a few years with the current Scrambler. I'm hope I'm right because I'd love to stay on a Ducati.

I'm thinking similarly tbh. Though a Hypermotard SP does look like a tempting proposition.

 

[DaveInWoodland]

Mehh I'm just going to put multi purpose tires and a skid plate on my 1976 KZ-900 and call it a day

 

[Joooooooosh]

I'm thinking similarly tbh. Though a Hypermotard SP does look like a tempting proposition.

The Hyper is cool but I've fallen for the retro looks more than I thought I would. I think I'd miss the bucket headlight and classic 'two wheels and a seat' vibe. I need to try a hyper, because it's even more upright than the Scrambler and I do find myself on big boring roads too often.

The XSR's price is also much lower but it doesn't seem to suffer when it comes to build quality and kit. TC, multiple engine modes etc... and some really nice little details. The Hyper seems little plastic-y in some area's but we'll see. A 939 Scrambler with more serious chassis for under £10k would be hard to turn down.

 

[Auriga]

There are some fine single track roads in Shropshire and Staffordshire, ideal for the Scrambler and its gearing. If you do not already have some OS maps, buy a few and look for yellow and white roads, which are neither big nor boring.i found some really interesting roads around Ellesmere, and you could always go into Wales, especially around Lake Vyrnwy.