[Mokly11]

hi everyone
I posted about my exhaust header turned grey and white before.
Now I m finding the way out according to you guys' recommendations
I want to change a zard zuma exhaust and send the pipe to them to do ceramic coating
But I am confused about their website options.
As u can see the attached picture of their website, the questions are:
1. Homologated .. if I put a tick on it, is that mean it will come with a catalyzer which ties in the law?
2. Black coating on oringinal headers... means that I will have to send them my pipe to them for doing ceramic coating?
3. What's the black decatalyzer link pipe? Do I need to put a tick on it if I am not going to get "homologated"?
Apart from that, step out of the law, what's the difference on sound and performance or anything between having a catalyzer and a decataylzer exhaust?
Anyone sent the header to them to do ceramic coating? How's the work out? I really don't want my pipe turns grey and white again:apologetic:
Also, if anyone of you installed this exhaust. Would you mind to tell me more about the performance without remapping? Or it's a must to do remap?

 

[dawid]

1. Homologated .. if I put a tick on it, is that mean it will come with a catalyzer which ties in the law?

Yes

2. Black coating on oringinal headers... means that I will have to send them my pipe to them for doing ceramic coating?

That's correct. Still, I think you should reconsider finding a company which can provide this kind of service in your home country. I am sure it will be cheaper and way faster.

3. What's the black decatalyzer link pipe? Do I need to put a tick on it if I am not going to get "homologated"?

Link pipe is a linkage pipe between the exhaust and the header (check the attached picture). There are two point which have to be fulfilled, in order to tie the exhaust with the law:
- exhaust have to be quiet enough - if you tick homologated option, you will get an exhaust with smaller, more quiet dB killers and homologation number on the exhaust. If you don't tick it, you will receive bigger dB killers and the exhaust without a number
- catalyzer has to be present - the catalyzer in installed not inside the exhaust, but inside the link pipe. This pipe has its own homologation number. If you tick "decatalyzer link pipe" option, you will get the link pipe without a homologation number and without the catalyzer. Still, you will buy the exhaust with smaller dB killer and homologation number.

I totally agree with you, as in my opinion it's very confusing as well and Zard should write some notes on its website. I wrote an email to Zard and I haven't received solid answer.

Apart from that, step out of the law, what's the difference on sound and performance or anything between having a catalyzer and a decataylzer exhaust?
Anyone sent the header to them to do ceramic coating? How's the work out? I really don't want my pipe turns grey and white again:apologetic:
Also, if anyone of you installed this exhaust. Would you mind to tell me more about the performance without remapping? Or it's a must to do remap?

I decided to go with fully homologated version. I travel a lot, thus I prefer to avoid the problems with police and I also prefer not to piss off my neighbors every morning. I am extremely satisfied with my decision! The exhaust has perfect tone and it's not too quiet and to too loud. It's just perfect.
Performance wise, of course non-homologated version will give you more power increasement, but I think the difference in reality is very, very small. Apart of power gain, keep in mind that homologated version is more expensive.

I didn't do any remaping, although I installed a BoosterPlug. This set-up works way better than stock, but still, sometimes I have some minor problems with fueling. Power increasement is easily noticeable, e.g. power wheelies are way easier to do.

I hope this post will help you a bit with your final decision

 

[Mokly11]

Thank you very much
Very detailed
I appreciate that :afro-33:

 

[Mokly11]

Yes


That's correct. Still, I think you should reconsider finding a company which can provide this kind of service in your home country. I am sure it will be cheaper and way faster.


Link pipe is a linkage pipe between the exhaust and the header (check the attached picture). There are two point which have to be fulfilled, in order to tie the exhaust with the law:
- exhaust have to be quiet enough - if you tick homologated option, you will get an exhaust with smaller, more quiet dB killers and homologation number on the exhaust. If you don't tick it, you will receive bigger dB killers and the exhaust without a number
- catalyzer has to be present - the catalyzer in installed not inside the exhaust, but inside the link pipe. This pipe has its own homologation number. If you tick "decatalyzer link pipe" option, you will get the link pipe without a homologation number and without the catalyzer. Still, you will buy the exhaust with smaller dB killer and homologation number.

I totally agree with you, as in my opinion it's very confusing as well and Zard should write some notes on its website. I wrote an email to Zard and I haven't received solid answer.


I decided to go with fully homologated version. I travel a lot, thus I prefer to avoid the problems with police and I also prefer not to piss off my neighbors every morning. I am extremely satisfied with my decision! The exhaust has perfect tone and it's not too quiet and to too loud. It's just perfect.
Performance wise, of course non-homologated version will give you more power increasement, but I think the difference in reality is very, very small. Apart of power gain, keep in mind that homologated version is more expensive.

I didn't do any remaping, although I installed a BoosterPlug. This set-up works way better than stock, but still, sometimes I have some minor problems with fueling. Power increasement is easily noticeable, e.g. power wheelies are way easier to do.

I hope this post will help you a bit with your final decision

Can I just confirm that is that meant if I tick homologated then I don't have to tick decatalyze link pipe option?

 

[dawid]

Can I just confirm that is that meant if I tick homologated then I don't have to tick decatalyze link pipe option?

Ok, I will make a small summary which will give you the whole picture. I should have done it before
Zard gives a possibility to buy three different set-ups:
1) Non-homologated set-up, which contains:
- Non-homologated exhaust, without a homologation number on it. This exhaust is equipped with bigger (more noisy) dB killers.
- Non-homologated link pipe, without a homologation number on it. This link pipe comes without a catalyzer.

In order to buy this set-up, you don't have to tick any additional options.

2) Fully homologated set-up, which contains:
- Homologated exhaust with a homologation number on it. This exhaust is equipped with smaller (less noisy) dB killers.
- Homologated link pipe with a homologation number on it. This link pipe comes with a catalyzer.

In order to buy this set-up, you have to tick "homologated" option.

3) Semi-homologated set-up, which contains:
- Homologated exhaust with a homologation number on it. This exhaust is equipped with smaller (less noisy) dB killers.
- Non-homologated link pipe without a homologation number on it. This link pipe comes without a catalyzer.

In order to buy this set-up, you have to tick "homologated" option, as well as "decatalyzer link pipe", or "black decatalyzer link pipe" option.


I hope I didn't mess up

 

[Airsafari87]

Or put more simply.

1. The man's choice.
2. The p*ssys choice.
3. The I can't make my mind up choice.

 

[dawid]

2. The p*ssys choice.

If you would live in Switzerland, or Germany you wouldn't be so courages
I lived for 3 years in Switzerland and they are crazy about the noise and pollution emissions. Friend of mine paid 700 CHF fine in Switzerland for non-homologated exhaust, his motorbike's registration was suspended, he had to call for a trailer, install homologated exhaust, perform road-worthiness test and finally collect motorbike's registration. At the end, being not a p*ssy cost him around 1100 CHF.
Do you still stick to your opinion?

 

[Airsafari87]

Do you still stick to your opinion?

Absolutely.

 

[Mokly11]

Ok, I will make a small summary which will give you the whole picture. I should have done it before
Zard gives a possibility to buy three different set-ups:
1) Non-homologated set-up, which contains:
- Non-homologated exhaust, without a homologation number on it. This exhaust is equipped with bigger (more noisy) dB killers.
- Non-homologated link pipe, without a homologation number on it. This link pipe comes without a catalyzer.

In order to buy this set-up, you don't have to tick any additional options.

2) Fully homologated set-up, which contains:
- Homologated exhaust with a homologation number on it. This exhaust is equipped with smaller (less noisy) dB killers.
- Homologated link pipe with a homologation number on it. This link pipe comes with a catalyzer.

In order to buy this set-up, you have to tick "homologated" option.

3) Semi-homologated set-up, which contains:
- Homologated exhaust with a homologation number on it. This exhaust is equipped with smaller (less noisy) dB killers.
- Non-homologated link pipe without a homologation number on it. This link pipe comes without a catalyzer.

In order to buy this set-up, you have to tick "homologated" option, as well as "decatalyzer link pipe", or "black decatalyzer link pipe" option.


I hope I didn't mess up

You are the man
Thanks a lot
I think option 3 is good for me because without a catalyzer looks better
I m in Hong Kong
Master of noise pollution as well as all sorts of pollution