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btw, I will change oil/filter by 4k miles. will not wait to the 7.5k miles.
who else is replacing oil/filter earlier than Ducati recommendation?.
who else is replacing oil/filter earlier than Ducati recommendation?.
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The motor vehicle manufacturers employ highly skilled engineers and the oil companies do likewise and between the two of them I figure that they know what they are on about so I don't second guess their recommendations. In the overall scheme of things oil is not expensive but excessive changes just creates more environmental waste that is not necessary IMO.
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Just about finished with this DIY. Also replaced my gear pedal while the exhaust is off, cleaned things up a bit etc...
One thing to note for us who have the shotgun exhaust that the lower baffle will have to come off first in order to access the right side 5 mm hex bolt that holds the exhaust in place. Unless there are some tools I'm not aware of that can fit in there without doing so? In any case, not a big deal, just thought I'd point it out.
Thank you for this detailed DIY and pictures.
One thing to note for us who have the shotgun exhaust that the lower baffle will have to come off first in order to access the right side 5 mm hex bolt that holds the exhaust in place. Unless there are some tools I'm not aware of that can fit in there without doing so? In any case, not a big deal, just thought I'd point it out.
Thank you for this detailed DIY and pictures.
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Once the bike is past break in, if I am only riding 1,000 miles per summer, anything wrong with only dropping the oil at the beginning of the season and leaving the filter for the next change? That results in a filter change every 2,000 miles but an oil change every 1,000.
Yeah I know it is criminal to not ride more often but I also have a Monster 821 stripe. I need to change the oil on both bikes today and leaving the filters on makes it much quicker and less messy as well.
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Yeah I know it is criminal to not ride more often but I also have a Monster 821 stripe. I need to change the oil on both bikes today and leaving the filters on makes it much quicker and less messy as well.
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A wise old mechanic once told me that changing your oil without changing the oil filter was like taking a shower without changing your underpants!:cheesy:
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Here is the theory. If you should change your oil and every 5,000 miles and that is what you do then it makes sense to do them both at the same time and your mechanic is correct.
But if you just change the oil at 2,500 miles you shouldn't be hurting anything as you otherwise would have left the filter on for another 2,500 miles anyway.
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But if you just change the oil at 2,500 miles you shouldn't be hurting anything as you otherwise would have left the filter on for another 2,500 miles anyway.
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Ok, that's a fair point but then my question is, why would one want to mix old oil with new? Even though it's maybe only half a liter but still? I'm not judging, just curious what the reason is behind changing oil more frequently than the filter?
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Here are a few reasons why I might prefer to skip a filter change for every other service.
1) Time. Less time to complete the job if I don’t have to remove the filter.
2) I couldn’t find my filter removal tool yesterday so I was looking for an excuse to not have to change the filter. This may be bone idle laziness on my behalf.
3) In this case I have only ridden about 500 miles and the oil looked like new anyway. But since it had been 18 months I thought getting the old oil out made sense, even if a small portion got left behind.
4). If it truly isn’t necessary, it is a waste of time, money, effort and it is one more petroleum laden oil filter in a landfill somewhere.
5). I could get three bikes done in the time it takes to do two if I don’t change filters. If I only had one bike it wouldn’t be such a big deal.
I appreciate the back and forth so don’t take any of my reasons as argumentative.
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I can´t see anything wrong with this. You are changing the oil annually at a more than reasonable mileage and the filter is seeing very little use so crack on. The "contamination" by leaving a bit of 1000 mile old in the filter is next to bugger all.
The oil has additives which become less effective over time/mileage but I´d expect them to remain fine for 2 years never mind one.
The oil has additives which become less effective over time/mileage but I´d expect them to remain fine for 2 years never mind one.
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I have a question I am hoping one of you can answer. I am getting ready to do the first oil change on the 2015 Ducati Scrambler 62 I have. The issue I am trying to figure out before I get started is how to get to the filter plug on the side cause the exhaust blocks it. Unlike all of the tutorials I have watched the section of the exhaust that blocks the filter plug does NOT have the nifty little springs to remove that section of the exhaust pipe and bolts to the engine. So do I have to unbolt it at the engine or is there another way to get the filter plug out.
If I have to unbolt it at the engine is there anything I need to be expressly worried about damaging.
Please help!
If I have to unbolt it at the engine is there anything I need to be expressly worried about damaging.
Please help!
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You have to get the bigger socket set hex bolts from your local princess auto or equivalent. You have to remove the baffles on a shotgun exhaust to access the bracket that holds the CAT in place and yes you have to remove the exhaust pipes that block access to the mesh filter. It's easy as pie to do. One thing to mention is that from the factory, the oil mesh filter is really tightly screwed in, so just make sure you're going counter clockwise and don't be afraid that you're adding a lot of force. Have someone hold your bike. It really is tight and there is another bolt behind the inital one you see, which is the actual oil mesh filter. Good idea to clean it, since dealer won't do it in most cases, especially good to do on a newer bike that has never had it cleaned. After that, every 2 oil changes is recommended.
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Thank you for the information. I am still not sure on disconnecting the exhaust where the exhaust tube meets the engine as there is a sensor below that point, but I will cross that bridge when I get my oil change kit and am ready to do the oil change.
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