Thanks tonyjuliano I was hoping for a straight answer ! , so in other words the dealer is full of crap ,just so he can sell his termo pipe ! Its the same as my Triumph 1050 sport than , they just put a sports tune in the ECU basically than you can put on most aftermarket pipes I guess, So with the Scrambler I just need to get the sports tune ( or Ducati equivalent put in ) but I guess they won't do that unless your running thier pipe ? , hence Anotherhobbys reply to his own equipment tuning stuff ,power commander etc. Ok I get it buy an aftermarket pipe and save about $1000 AUS dollors with the saving get a tune somwhere .