[mk3nippa]

So, after numerous threads, I have a Termi and BMC std filter fitted along with the factory upmap. Would the Rexxer reflash make any worthwhile difference?
I should point out that I am not looking to alter anything to do with the O2 etc.

 

[Joooooooosh]

Probably not worth the money. From what I was told when I had my Rexxer remap done, one of the better maps for it is based on the 'factory' Termi map.

The Termi map is still very conservative apparently and the Rexxer one improves things yet further but unless the money is burning a hole in your pocket, seems a waste on such minimal gains. Money is better spent on say... suspension.

I don't know if the Termi up-map is designed to work with the BMC filter or not.

My initial test ride was on an ICON with the termi race can fitted and it felt much better than my standard Full Throttle.

 

[TC3]

I know you say you do not want to disable the 02 but I think it is a pity as having that exhaust and the BMC filter with the 02 disabled and a Rexxer flash to get the lot working in harmony will give the bike a different feel when you accelerate.

 

[Desmoduke]

I have a Race slip on Termi from new and found the Termi up map useless. I now have had a Rexxer map and CO2 disabled for 5000 kms and there is no going back!!

 

[gcduc]

I concur with the two posters above me. Doing away with the lambda sensors, via a RexXer map, combined with a slip on and performance air filter has literally transformed the bike. Give it some thought to disable the lambda sensors and try it out, you can always easily reverse the mod.

 

[Joooooooosh]

Counter point to disabling the 02 sensors. It does result in a noticeable drop in fuel economy. Maybe not an issue for those using the bike as a weekend toy or for our oil endowed American cousins...

I used to regularly see around 115-120 miles before the fuel light came on. Nowadays it's normally around 95-105 miles before seeing the light.

Now, weather or not it's the re-tune that drops economy or the fact the bike is far more rev happy and makes a ridiculous noise... causing me to ride it like more of a tit...
That's open to debate. I suspect it's a mixture of the two but ultimately, same result.

Thankfully it's still only £14ish to brim the tank and the bike prefers standard 95 unleaded to the more expensive 98. So, if range is an issue, leave the 02 sensors functioning. (it will also then burble and burp more on the overrun )

 

[gcduc]

I agree re the fuel usage - it will have to increase. No doubt I also ride it harder now that the engine really feels like it wants to. I used to get about 125 miles before the fuel light came on. I haven't ridden it enough to get an idea of the new usage, I'll report back after a few tanks.

It is a counter point I guess but to me not much of one. If I have to go to the petrol station a little more often I don't care given how much better the bike feels. Easy trade off for me.

I always use 98 fuel. I haven't given it any thought to use the 95. I'll poke around and see if this is already a thread and what others have commented.

 

[Deano968]

I agree re the fuel usage - it will have to increase. No doubt I also ride it harder now that the engine really feels like it wants to. I used to get about 125 miles before the fuel light came on. I haven't ridden it enough to get an idea of the new usage, I'll report back after a few tanks.

It is a counter point I guess but to me not much of one. If I have to go to the petrol station a little more often I don't care given how much better the bike feels. Easy trade off for me.

I always use 98 fuel. I haven't given it any thought to use the 95. I'll poke around and see if this is already a thread and what others have commented.

From what I was told at the dealers (Frasers over here in Sydney) you won't see any extra benefit from running 98 octane. The engine is very happy with 95. Not saying that's gospel but it's what I was told during the handover.

 

[Joooooooosh]

From what I was told at the dealers (Frasers over here in Sydney) you won't see any extra benefit from running 98 octane. The engine is very happy with 95. Not saying that's gospel but it's what I was told during the handover.

The fuel in Italy is often... not great. I've had Japanese bikes/cars that run much better on 98 (uk) but I'd guess the Scramabler has been optimised for 95 primarily. It's not like it makes a huge difference, when I could be bothered to measure economy on the stock setup, it got slightly worse range on 98. It's not like I could feel any performance difference.

 

[mk3nippa]

Hmm, all good points to take on board, I get mid 50's UK mpg maybe a couple more with the 16 tooth front spkt but I have went back to standard as I like the urgency of lower gearing so after I came back from a trip to Spain & France it went back on along with the standard Icon bars.
Are there bolt kits to replace the sensors (I assume you remove them when you are disabling them on the flash)?

 

[mk3nippa]

Also, are there any good Ducati dealerships (or otherwise) UK that do Rexxer or would I need to post to Germany?

 

[TC3]

Also, are there any good Ducati dealerships (or otherwise) UK that do Rexxer or would I need to post to Germany?

Plenty in the UK depending where you live?

 

[corbo]

Talk to Terry at Ducati Lincoln - Top Bloke

 

[mk3nippa]

Plenty in the UK depending where you live?

Newcastle upon Tyne

 

[Yeti]

Debating 98 vs 95 in a modern 11:1 CR motor

Fail

 

[Joooooooosh]

QUOTE="Yeti, post: 76353, member: 3625"]Debating 98 vs 95 in a modern 11:1 CR motor

Fail[/QUOTE]

Productive comment... care to elaborate?

And I'm not sure I'd call the 2v air-cooled desmo 'modern.' It's also not like bikes have anywhere near the same level of complexity when it comes to fueling as modern cars.
The FI system in the Scrambler is pretty rudimentary.

I'm not going to pretend there is some kind of dramatic performance difference between the two fuels but I measured a noticeable difference in tank range between a tank full of either.

 

[Yeti]

How did you control throttle to duplicate engine loading ie: fuel demand

 

[Joooooooosh]

By riding the exact same route to work over several weeks and doing the same 120 mile journey every other week over summer. I admit, this wasn't done on a rolling road in a hermetically sealed lab but it was enough to convince me.

 

[Max Kool]

We should start an oil thread :biggrin-new:

 

[gcduc]

I agree getting a controlled fuel load is difficult under real world conditions. I have been using 95 recently and have found the opposite to you Joooooooosh, it seemed to get better fuel economy with 98. But, as stated, hard to know for sure.

Yeti - what is the rationale for your comments above regarding this being a pointless ("fail") discussion? Are you saying there should be a difference or that it should make no difference. You comment seems quite cryptic to me.