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I've always liked the look of them but lots of FT owners seem to be replacing them with something louder. Thinking of getting one for my icon and will try to hear an FT in the flesh before I buy if any of the local shops have a Full Throttle demo available. Basically I'd like a little more noise (but not too loud) and a deeper note so wondering if the FT muffler would suit me. I've watched a few utube vids but they can be deceptive, sounds good in one and crap in the next. After opinions here as to if you reckon they sound good or why you changed mufflers. If I was standing beside the road and a Full Throttle went past, would it sound a lot nicer than my Icon? I remember someone on one of the forums fitted an FT muffler to his Icon and was happy but can't find it now so if anyone has done that I would appreciate their thoughts too.
 

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I have slip-on Termi with the dB killer installed on my Icon. Last time I was at the dealership they had a FT sitting in the service bay. I asked them to start it up so I could hear the pipe side by side with mine. To me, it was disappointing and didn't sound anywhere close to as good. It sounds better than stock, but is really not nearly as good as the non-catted pipes. It's not nearly as deep and sounds very constricted by comparison. With the dB killer in, the slip-on is not that loud, and it sounds excellent.

If you must have a cat, then I'd go the FT route, but if you are allowed to run what you want, then I'd save your money and get an after market pipe. The Termi is one option (I have it and I'm happy), but there are lots of other cheaper options now that can be paired up with the rexxer tune for less money.
 

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I like the ft termi, it isn't loud to worry about earplugs, yet has a real AMG v8 sound on deceleration, it sounds decent just blipping at the lights. it isn't going to set anyone's world on fire but to me it suits the size of the bike.
 

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+1 on Jellies' post above. Beauty is in the ear of the beholder. I've heard the Termi race slip on in person, and it sounds great, but it's a bit much for my personality (and work schedule).

I think the FT sounds just right, but I live in CA so (to be completely legal) have to be happy with a catted exhaust. Definitely not aggressive sounding, just more like it means business.
 

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I put the Full Throttle Termi on my Icon Doc, Love the look, and it is quite loud imho, :D but not too loud

 

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Thanks for the replies everyone, I think that is the best looking muffler for the Scrambler that is available (aside from the Termi high pipe but thats bloody expensive and a little impractical). One came up for sale here for a good price so I was tempted but haven't been able to actually hear one on a bike so have decided to give it a miss for now. Might regret it when I actually do hear one and like it but lots of people are removing them so they won't be too hard to find in the future.

For now I'll keep playing with my home made shotgun slipon, its a 2003 Kawasaki Z1000 muffler that I have shortened, and made new baffles for. Currently testing it on my SV650 (because it slips on really easily) to try and get the sound right. Almost happy with it, not too loud but I would like a bit deeper note, hard to get with a small muffler volume so still playing with the baffles. Only real expense will be getting a joiner pipe made and welded to it to turn it into a Scrambler slipon. Also will be interesting to see if the extra 150cc's per rev actually help to make it a little more restrictive, hence quieter on the Scrambler.

Once I get it sorted I'll post pics here and see what people think. To avoid the usual crowd telling me that my bike must run like shit, sound crap and my pistons are going to melt I'm planning on getting baseline dyno runs done with the stock exhaust and my slipon as soon as its fitted. By baseline I mean, hp, torque and air/fuel ratio. Actually I'm really surprised we haven't seen any air/fuel ratios from any of these bikes considering some people say they have done dyno time, especially the tuning, exhaust mobs.

Saying that, if it does run like shit, or loses anything noticeable on the dyno, my muffler goes into the bin and you'll never hear about it again :)
 

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Please keep us posted on that pipe experiment, Doc. But if it doesn't work out, I think you'll be more than pleased with the FT exhaust. The race Termi sounds nice but a bit too loud for me. The FT is not nearly so in-your-face loud, but has a business-like growl that surprises and pleases me every time I crank the bike. I keep skipping my earplugs just so I can hear it as I ride.

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Ended up getting the FT Termi, seller dropped his price and I couldn't resist just for the looks alone. Its in the mail to me at the moment so hopeing it will have a nice sound when I fit it as you blokes reckon. I'm happy with quiet but want that V Twin growl too.
Elvisto, my bike is looking close to yours minus the guards and rack, already have the FT seat and now have the muffler coming. Mine also has home converted push bike panniers fitted most of the time though.
Sarah, pipe experiment looks like it will be going on the shelf for now, keen on playing with this Termi when it arrives.
 

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I had test rides on the Icon and the Icon with Termi Race slip-on and then bought a Full Throttle with its stock Termignoni twin pipe. The Full Throttle stock pipe is louder than the stock Icon but not as loud as the race pipe. There seems to be a range of RPM that the pipe is louder and produces a deeper tone. That RPM is lower in the bikes range and seems to make more noise when you blip the throttle just above idle or are trailing throttle (off the gas and letting the motor decelerate). The trailing throttle is really enjoyable and adds character to the bike. The burble and pops add a smile to my face.

At speed the volume seems to muffle out and is quiet. It almost makes me believe there was an exhaust butterfly valve at work. It's probably the higher flow is producing pressure waves that cancel each other out and muffle within the pipe. As you listen to that video above you can hear the tone change from low RPM to higher RPM. This cancelling flow at higher RPM works for me. At speed I want stealth.
 
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