Hyperpro suspension

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Chris75

Discussion Starter · May 8, 2015

Hey guy's, I contacted Hyperpro in Holland today. They were very helpful in giving me accurate information about there prices and told me the suspension for the scrambler (front and rear) are in development and will come out soon!

They have fix prices:
Front: €152,- (spring L/R + oil).
Rear spring: €110,-
Rear-shock: type 460 (rebound ajustable): 465,-
Rear-shock: type 461 (compleet ajustable): 734,-

Hyperpro English - Hyperpro Safety Control

Perhaps something to consider as an alternative... . Let me know what u think.

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Scramblizer

· #2 · May 20, 2015

Hey Chris, who did you talk to at HyperPro? I asked the German Distributor and they claim nothing is ready by now but maybe under development... In addition: To my understanding there is only one spring in the stock setup (right fork leg) and if their solution really consists of two new springs l/r they would need to supply the cartridge on the left as well I guess...?

Hedonism

· #3 · May 20, 2015

Look for a cartridge like andreani/ohlins having hydraulic registers. Just the spring is almost useless

Hui

· #4 · May 20, 2015

Scramblizer said:
Hey Chris, who did you talk to at HyperPro? I asked the German Distributor and they claim nothing is ready by now but maybe under development... In addition: To my understanding there is only one spring in the stock setup (right fork leg) and if their solution really consists of two new springs l/r they would need to supply the cartridge on the left as well I guess...?

You could be right, but out of the hundreds of forks I've stripped I've yet to see just one sided spring. I have however found a few where one leg takes care of compression damping and the other the rebound. The springs or 'maybe' spring is preload.

Scramblizer

· #5 · May 20, 2015

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Hui said:
You could be right, but out of the hundreds of forks I've stripped I've yet to see just one sided spring. I have however found a few where one leg takes care of compression damping and the other the rebound. The springs or 'maybe' spring is preload.

Could not agree more - weird design but true story. Here is proof from the service manual and explo-view... And yes, there IS a preload-plastic-tubing preloading the one spring and I wonder if shortening that tube would smooth out the ride of the lighter pilots around here... ;-) Low budget improvement like putting the rear shock on the weakest position maybe...?

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Hui

· #6 · May 20, 2015

There ye go, first time for everything. Shortening the sleeve will do what a dial would do normally. I think the best place for these is in the scrap skip.

Chris75

Discussion Starter · #7 · May 20, 2015 (Edited)

Scramblizer said:
Hey Chris, who did you talk to at HyperPro? I asked the German Distributor and they claim nothing is ready by now but maybe under development... In addition: To my understanding there is only one spring in the stock setup (right fork leg) and if their solution really consists of two new springs l/r they would need to supply the cartridge on the left as well I guess...?

The guys name is John Troost. They are situated in Holland. You can contact him at [email protected].

He contacted me the other day asking if I would mind lending them my bike for a week to setup the scrambler in general. I would get the suspension for free that way, front and rear springs, no shock.

Didn't know about the one spring setup. When I talked to the guy I presumed we where talking about L+R.

New to me too...

Derek

· #8 · May 20, 2015

Scramblizer said:
Could not agree more - weird design but true story. Here is proof from the service manual and explo-view... And yes, there IS a preload-plastic-tubing preloading the one spring and I wonder if shortening that tube would smooth out the ride of the lighter pilots around here... ;-) Low budget improvement like putting the rear shock on the weakest position maybe...? View attachment 1032 View attachment 1033

Sorry to disappoint you but that's the way Ducati show them in the parts list. It is the same for the Superbikes, Multis, STs etc. Although there are 2 springs they only illustrate 1. Same for some of the other components that are duplicated as well. The accompanying parts list will say something like " 20. (Part no...) Spring Qty 2"

Joe Bar

· #9 · May 20, 2015

Derek said:
Sorry to disappoint you but that's the way Ducati show them in the parts list. It is the same for the Superbikes, Multis, STs etc. Although there are 2 springs they only illustrate 1. Same for some of the other components that are duplicated as well. The accompanying parts list will say something like " 20. (Part no...) Spring Qty 2"

That not what it says below the parts diagram above -

I can't say from personal experience just what I read above, and it's certainly a strange design, whose only merit would appear to be cost cutting.

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Hedonism

· #10 · May 21, 2015

this evening I'm going to check the ORIGNAL DUCATI INNER CARTRIDGE I'm storing on my garage since I've replaced fitting the Andreani/Ohlins... will see how many spring(s) they gave me back

Derek

· #11 · May 21, 2015

Joe Bar said:
That not what it says below the parts diagram above -

I can't say from personal experience just what I read above, and it's certainly a strange design, whose only merit would appear to be cost cutting.

I stand corrected then. That is weird.

Joe Bar

· #12 · May 21, 2015

Derek said:
That is weird.

Definitely. I'll be interested to hear confirmation first hand from Hedonism later. It would account for the differient oil capacity for each leg though.

Hui

· #13 · May 21, 2015

We have supporting vendors as members on here who have probably forgotten more that I have learned about suspension. Surely someone can confirm either way by now.

Hedonism

· #14 · May 21, 2015

self explanatory

this is what Andreani gave me back

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Joe Bar

· #15 · May 21, 2015

Hedonism said:
....this is what Andreani gave me back

Definitely, two springs in there then.

Whoever wrote the excerpt from the workshop manual above was clearly on work experience.

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Scramblizer

· #16 · May 21, 2015

Okay guys, sorry for the confusion, I guess the tech writer of the workshop manual was either blind or an idiot or anything in combination or in between... Thanks Hedonism for clarification!

Chris75

Discussion Starter · #17 · May 21, 2015

So, normal shocks, springs left and right.

Scramblizer

· #18 · May 21, 2015

So the different oil levels are because one side is for rebound and the other for compression, just what Hedonism showed in the description of the new Andreani / Öhlins Combo, right?

Hedonism

· #19 · May 21, 2015

I can confirm that one side is for compression and the other for rebound, but don't know abt oil levels

of course Adnreani / Ohlins has 2 springs as well and relevant preloading registers are on BOTH sides

Hui

· #20 · May 22, 2015

Hedonism said:
self explanatory

this is what Andreani gave me back

Thank you !!
We're not as out of touch as I was starting to think, eh Derek.
I'll need to climb into the scrap skip and get them back.

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