Max Speed?

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tonyjuliano

Discussion Starter · Aug 26, 2015 (Edited)

I've been wildly "entertained" by a similar thread on the "other" forum, so I thought it would be fun to see what you all think about this subject.

I'm creating a poll to collect your individual thoughts on what the absolute terminal (top) speed of a Scrambler is.

Let the rampant speculation (and bull-shitting) begin!

Please note - all opinions should reflect "ACTUAL" speeds - not what the inaccurate speedo reports.

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Cag

· #2 · Aug 26, 2015

It's too fast for me. Not had the thought it's under powered for what I use it for. Just doing 70 mph officer.

AnotherHobby

· #3 · Aug 26, 2015

If you have factory sprockets, and could hit the 9200 RPM redline in 6th gear, you'd be going ~ 130 mph.

tonyjuliano

Discussion Starter · #4 · Aug 26, 2015

AnotherHobby said:
If you have factory sprockets, and could hit the 9200 RPM redline in 6th gear, you'd be going ~ 130 mph.

While your statement is essentially correct, it's also flawed. There isn't enough available HP to hit redline in 6th (so I guess I've given that much away already!)

NickJ

· #5 · Aug 26, 2015

While I feel like the bike is fun at any speed, I wanted to answer the poll with an actual number.

I don't feel like this bike is good for much above 100. I voted 105, but feel like it would be good up to 105-110. There is too much wind resistance on this bike to get much above that. Once you get to those speeds, it is all about drag. The bike might have the power and the gearing to go faster, but I don't feel like it has the aero to go really really fast.

Last year, the new Scout was out on the land speed track at El Mirage and was only able to eek out 128 and some change in stock form. That was with a long track ahead of it, but they ended up running out of aero. The bike still had some puff left in it, but it just could not overcome the drag. Check out the story here: Q&A with Elnora and the Scout at the El Mirage Speed Week | Indian Motorcycle Forum

I realize that the Scout is heavier, but it also has more horsepower and has a smaller aerodynamic signature as well.

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nuttynick

· #6 · Aug 26, 2015

I know that with my revised gearing, I've already topped the first two, satnav confirmed, so pretty close. I'll vote 125, and next time I'm on a private road, now I've got a few more miles on the motor, I'll give it a go

NickJ

· #7 · Aug 26, 2015

nuttynick said:
Revised gearing, I've already topped the first two, satnav confirmed, so pretty close. I'll vote 125.

This counts as modification. Are we talking Stock Form, or with mods?

I am sure that with a full land speed aero pod over the bike and tow in gearing, it would be good for much more.

AnotherHobby

· #8 · Aug 26, 2015

tonyjuliano said:
While your statement is essentially correct, it's also flawed. There isn't enough available HP to hit redline in 6th (so I guess I've given that much away already!)

My statement is not flawed at all. I said IF you could hit redline in 6th gear (according to standard English, the IF at that beginning of that sentence applies to both clauses). I didn't say it was possible.

tonyjuliano

Discussion Starter · #9 · Aug 26, 2015

NickJ said:
This counts as modification. Are we talking Stock Form, or with mods?

Gearing mods are allowed - but you should know gearing is not the limiting factor with this bike.

littleowl

· #10 · Aug 26, 2015

I've got up to 118 and felt it had a bit more, but not sure how much more? It was not pleasant going at that speed anyway so I haven't tried to top it since!

nuttynick

· #11 · Aug 26, 2015

I think the limiting factor will be a lack of power trying to force a barn door through a thick gas we call air! Revised gearing may make the most of the usable power/torque and worth a few mph? Riding Jay Springsteen fashion will also help!

tonyjuliano

Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 26, 2015

nuttynick said:
I think the limiting factor will be a lack of power trying to force a barn door through a thick gas we call air!

Exactly - available HP (to overcome drag and rolling resistance) is THE limiting factor.

tonyjuliano

Discussion Starter · #13 · Aug 26, 2015

NickJ said:
Last year, the new Scout was out on the land speed track at El Mirage and was only able to eek out 128 and some change in stock form.

That particular Scout must have had a pretty significant bump in HP over stock to hit 128 mph. Maybe it was the super-aerodynamic (but also super-ugly) fenders!

Ogre

· #14 · Aug 26, 2015

I previously posted that my GPS recorded a top speed of 114mph. I was accelerating onto a freeway from an on ramp & not even trying to push it to its limits.

I have topped the century many times for short bursts but still have not tried to max it out.

But I will say this...you really feel the speed on the Scrambler and that is a good thing, in my opinion & from my perspective.

I have (& have had & ridden) other bikes where the opposite is true...you look @ speedo & u r in triple digits when u thought u were just " cruisin"...dangerous for keeping your license and lacks fun factor (until u r going well above legal limits).

Consider a 427 clasic Cobra going down the interstate @ 65mph speed limit. (Just passed one doing that on I-86 2 days ago.)
BORING!!!

Vs. a vintage model A Ford that is doing 60 mph (passed one of those too).
EXCITING!!!

The real fun (@ least 4 me) factor of the Scrambler is the precise handling in the tight twisties not its speed (or lack of).

That said, yesterday I found a deserted straight and redlined in gears 1st-5th b 4 backing off. GPS saved the top speed @ 104mph (but not sure if that was accurate because I sometimes get a lag in GPS reading).

(My best guess is 120mph tops but not gonna respond to poll until I get a chance to test it.)

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NickJ

· #15 · Aug 26, 2015

tonyjuliano said:
That particular Scout must have had a pretty significant bump in HP over stock to hit 128 mph. Maybe it was the super-aerodynamic (but also super-ugly) fenders!

The Scout had no modifications other than bars, and a slight augmentation to the ECU. 100 hp and 74 ft-lbs of torque.

tonyjuliano

Discussion Starter · #16 · Aug 26, 2015

NickJ said:
The Scout had no modifications other than bars, and a slight augmentation to the ECU. 100 hp and 74 ft-lbs of torque.

100 Hp would explain it - Somehow, I thought the Scout only made around 85...

Bradders

· #17 · Aug 26, 2015

I don't think top speed on these is worth caring about, I certainly didn't buy mine for top end.
I have seen 130 and 123 quoted though, but I'll take their word for it

NickJ

· #18 · Aug 26, 2015

tonyjuliano said:
100 Hp would explain it - Somehow, I thought the Scout only made around 85...

69 cubic inch (1133cc) liquid cooled v-twin. It is a powerful motor.

El Toro

· #19 · Aug 26, 2015

I've never been over the speed limit officer. Honest *****

stavely

· #20 · Aug 26, 2015

This thread is just asking for some video proof!! Let's be having it you maxed out Guy's 'n Gals.

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