[Federberg]

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Hello everyone!
New bike, mileage 300km
The problem is only on a cold engine
It takes 5-10 attempts before starting the engine
Does anyone have any ideas?

 

[AnotherHobby]

That doesn't seem right. I'd go straight back to the dealer.

 

[Oil_Can]

ttps://youtu.be/BUCAon8FvJY
Hello everyone!
New bike, mileage 300km
The problem is only on a cold engine
It takes 5-10 attempts before starting the engine
Does anyone have any ideas?

Does this happen every time engine is s cold?

 

[Spiz]

What rating of fuel are you using?

 

[JustPlainBill0]

My 2018 1100 on the initial start of the day will sometimes start, sputter and die. Then repeat the process until I'm ready to put drive a wooden stake through the ECU - which is clearly possessed by demons. My bike has just 2000 miles (3500Km) and the frequency of occurrence has reduced as the miles increase. That said, it does happen and my "fix" is to turn the key on, wait for all the whirring and whistling to end, twist the throttle wide open and let it snap back closed. Then (hands off the throttle) press the starter button . It lights right off and stays running at a proper RPM level and, same as for you, is good for the rest of the day.
I don't know of a rational explanation for that procedure to work -- maybe the real trick is keeping my hand off the throttle I'm inclined to try to try to use the throttle to feed it fuel while it's sputtering and EFI systems don't have accelerator pumps. Anyway, it doesn't cost anything and might be worth a try.

 

[Sushi7065]

I’m strangely having this problem as well on my 2019 CR. It just sputters and coughs and dies on the first two or three starts of the day, gives me a huff and a bad attitude for the first five minutes or so (usually in 1st or 2nd), and then it’s fine for the rest of the day. I’m getting it checked in a few weeks (Is it the evap can? Dirty O2 sensor? Wonky glitch in my upmapping? Bad EFI? I have no clue), but until then I’m gonna try this and see how it goes. Thanks for the tip!

 

[Deano968]

Just a FTR – I never touch the throttle when starting my 800. I switch it on at the ignition, get my helmet and gloves on (not sure it needs the time but this lets the bike go through its little lights and fuel pump routine). Then I just hit the starter and she fires up. Never missed a beat in 5+ years. I am in a fairly temperate climate though.

 

[K1W1]

Just a FTR – I never touch the throttle when starting my 800. I switch it on at the ignition, get my helmet and gloves on (not sure it needs the time ut this lets the bike go through its little lights and fuel pump routine). Then I just hit the starter and she fires up. Never missed a beat in 5+ years. I am in a fairly temperate climate though.

Same here. The owner should never have to touch the throttle on a modern fuel injected bike during start-up. Let the electronics do their thing then when they are ready hit the start button and remove hand once the bike fires.
Who pumps the throttle on their car when they start it for goodness sake?

The OP should take the bike straight back to the dealer. It probably has a faulty or not correctly fitted sensor somewhere in the system. The dealer will be able to pinpoint it in seconds using the diagnostic codes.

 

[R100rsman]

Because of some gas supply issues here on the east coast (a couple of weeks ago), i was forced to put some regular marine gas in my motorcycle. Not much, like a gallon. I believe this caused some very difficult starting events. Ran it all out and refilled with better gas and now starts and runs like a champ. I believe fuel quality and octane makes a significant difference in how these bikes start and run. I can put anything in my old KLR and it will run no differently. LOL

 

[tactical_borscht]

Have exactly the same issue with my 2021 1100 Pro.

 

[JaviAlbe]

My father and I recently got two brand new sparkling blue 2021 desert sleds and since the day they were delivered to us, on cold days they both have a weak start. On the delivery day, when the dealer started both of them, one of them stalled. We left one of the bikes with the dealership so they could look at what was wrong. They haven't been able to figure out a solution yet but they told us it could be related to the Euro5... who knows, what matters is that they acknowledge there is a problem and that they have no idea what to do.

In the meanwhile we use the bikes as usual. If it is a cold day I start the bike (I never use the throttle when doing so, in fact when I've tried the engine stalls quicker) and leave it running for a couple of mins like @Deano968 and the issue is gone. On warmer days there is no problem at all.

 

[Federberg]

The cable for one of the spark plugs was not correctly installed from the factory. Or disconnected by a dealer.
Problem solved&

 

[ecscram]

I have similar issue with no throttle response when blipping to rev match from 2nd to 1st on a just purchased 2018 Scrambler 1100 with 2100 miles clocked. Order of what to look at first - lots of suggestions above just wondered which were most effective?

 

[tactical_borscht]

I have similar issue with no throttle response when blipping to rev match from 2nd to 1st on a just purchased 2018 Scrambler 1100 with 2100 miles clocked. Order of what to look at first - lots of suggestions above just wondered which were most effective?

Problem with my bike has disappeared by itself over time. I'm at 5k miles now and I no longer experience any issues with the cold engine stalling after start. I'm not sure what it was but it stopped happening.

 

[ecscram]

Problem with my bike has disappeared by itself over time. I'm at 5k miles now and I no longer experience any issues with the cold engine stalling after start. I'm not sure what it was but it stopped happening.

Good to know, maybe just hang in there a bit, put some more miles on with good gas and see what happens

 

[dch]

I have 2021 Nightshift (800cc). It had starting problems fro new. I took it back to the dealer twice. The 2nd time around they kept it for 3 days and remapped the ECU. That fixed it. A year later the problem is back. I think I'll go back to a Jap bike

 

[Ducati_passion]

Consider getting an O2 modulator for your bike, I use a Rapid Bike Easy on my 2018 800 Desert Sled. 2 hours to fit and improves the fueling to the bike, including starting.

Now, mine will stall if I try to pull away immediately after starting with the air temperature outside less than 10C (50F) because the oil hasn't warmed up properly, but it always starts first time.

 

[JustPlainBill0]

I can relate. Based on experience of friends with Duc's and what I've read, I've long believed that Ducati rushes products to market without fully testing and correcting problems resulting from their innovative designs; using early adopters as beta testers. So I chose my first Ducati (an 1100 Scrambler), partly because I had so admired the first generation Scramblers back in the '70's and partly because (I thought) the choice of the tried and true 1100 Evo Monster engine would minimize teething issues. After mine came down with piston slap and also has trouble starting on occasion, I concluded I was mistaken; not about Ducati selling untested high performance motorcycles (that is still true) but that Ducati can even make ordinary, proven designs reliably and consistently. I can accept that as a simple fact and it doesn't prevent me from enjoying my Ducati when I do use it. But I also own a Honda and Yamaha.

 

[ecscram]

I can relate. Based on experience of friends with Duc's and what I've read, I've long believed that Ducati rushes products to market without fully testing and correcting problems resulting from their innovative designs; using early adopters as beta testers. So I chose my first Ducati (an 1100 Scrambler), partly because I had so admired the first generation Scramblers back in the '70's and partly because (I thought) the choice of the tried and true 1100 Evo Monster engine would minimize teething issues. After mine came down with piston slap and also has trouble starting on occasion, I concluded I was mistaken; not about Ducati selling untested high performance motorcycles (that is still true) but that Ducati can even make ordinary, proven designs reliably and consistently. I can accept that as a simple fact and it doesn't prevent me from enjoying my Ducati when I do use it. But I also own a Honda and Yamaha.

 

[ecscram]

How many miles in did you begin noticing piston slap on the 1100?