Ohlins or Andriani fork cartridge
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I've replaced the OEM shock and fork internals with an Ohlins rear shock and an Andriani kit which is a great improvement and I personally think that replacing the complete fork assembly is over kill..
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Hello
Lots of guys who change the internal mechanism of both fork legs for an Andreani kit seems to be really happy with it.
Ohlins seems to provide also a kit, but, as far as I know, no one, on any Scrambler forum, has yet mounted it.
Ohlins also provides an entire fork, but the price is much higher than a simple kit.
There's a third way : the Maxton cartridge for the right leg. Many of us installed it and we are happy with it too. The improvment is real and the price is a little bit lower than the Andreani kit. It can also be mounted by a less experienced and equipped mechanic than the Andreani kit, which requires more tools and some machining on the left fork leg bottom part.
Lots of guys who change the internal mechanism of both fork legs for an Andreani kit seems to be really happy with it.
Ohlins seems to provide also a kit, but, as far as I know, no one, on any Scrambler forum, has yet mounted it.
Ohlins also provides an entire fork, but the price is much higher than a simple kit.
There's a third way : the Maxton cartridge for the right leg. Many of us installed it and we are happy with it too. The improvment is real and the price is a little bit lower than the Andreani kit. It can also be mounted by a less experienced and equipped mechanic than the Andreani kit, which requires more tools and some machining on the left fork leg bottom part.
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Hardright,
I was happy with the forks but hated the rear shock, I fitted and am very happy with the M Shock.
Unfortunately when I got the shock set up, including ride height, it made the front feel terrible.
I've since had the Andriani cartridges fitted, now the suspension is great, the bike is a bit gutless but at least it rides well!
Suspension is very personal, so many things change the outcome, weight, height, riding style and usual riding surfaces, some on here have had success with different set ups or even none at all, it really is trial and error or get professional advice.
Hope that helps and good luck.
I was happy with the forks but hated the rear shock, I fitted and am very happy with the M Shock.
Unfortunately when I got the shock set up, including ride height, it made the front feel terrible.
I've since had the Andriani cartridges fitted, now the suspension is great, the bike is a bit gutless but at least it rides well!
Suspension is very personal, so many things change the outcome, weight, height, riding style and usual riding surfaces, some on here have had success with different set ups or even none at all, it really is trial and error or get professional advice.
Hope that helps and good luck.
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I'm very happy with my set up what I ment by over kill was that replacing the whole fork assembly with the Ohlins kit is to me alittle expensive, I've seen a scrambler that's had the Ohlins forks fitted at the store but haven't ridden it or talked with the owner.
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I've got a Nitron shock and Andreani cartridges. Both have made an improvement but not to the extent I was hoping, whether this is because I'm relatively light compared to most others I don't know - possibly meaning the springs are still a little hard for me (although I had given my height and weight).
I haven't done a technical set up because I've had the Nitron shock shortened, and the seat lowered to accommodate my height (inside leg is pretty short - 28.25"!). If I alter the set up to suggested parameters via preload it cancels out all of that, so no point. I found that moving the forks up or down by a relatively smallest amount can have a big effect on the bike. So at the end of the day I've adjusted for how the bike feels to me and my style of riding - it may not be 'by the book' but it feels okay to me
I haven't done a technical set up because I've had the Nitron shock shortened, and the seat lowered to accommodate my height (inside leg is pretty short - 28.25"!). If I alter the set up to suggested parameters via preload it cancels out all of that, so no point. I found that moving the forks up or down by a relatively smallest amount can have a big effect on the bike. So at the end of the day I've adjusted for how the bike feels to me and my style of riding - it may not be 'by the book' but it feels okay to me
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So - first things first.. I had Andrania cartridges installed this winter and was more than satisfied. About a month ago I got into an accident because I was looking in the rear view mirror at the exact moment the car in front of me hammered the brakes.. bumped into him at low speed and didnt even bend my front rim or the fender on his Chrysler Voyager, but my fork tubes were dented at where I suppose they meet the fork legs at full compression. The bike acted normally afterwards, I even rode it on track with no problems and didnt notice the dent before someone pointed it out for me. I drove it for a few more weeks with a slight discomfort, constantly on the watch for abnormalities, and about two weeks ago oil film started to apper on the tubes.
My initial thought was to replace the fork tubes but Ducati only sells complete forks. The cartridges also turned out to be bent, and the price started to add up. The difference in price up to Ohlins was still significant but it was now or never-moment and I decided to go for it. Until otherwise proven I suppose my Scrambler is the only bike in the world that has been driven with both Andreani and Ohlins forks.
First impressions: Not worth it. If original forks are 1 and Ohlins are 10, Andreani are about 8. I cant really put my finger on the actual difference, all I can do is resort to phrases like "more harmonic" and "confidence-inspiring".. for all I know they may be the effect of a lighter wallet. I did however, barely have time to pick up the bike at the dealership before the track day and still havent ridden on uneven tarmac. I usually ride a lot of B- and C-roads in horrible condition, any discernible difference is likely to manifest itself in the run of the next few weeks.
My initial thought was to replace the fork tubes but Ducati only sells complete forks. The cartridges also turned out to be bent, and the price started to add up. The difference in price up to Ohlins was still significant but it was now or never-moment and I decided to go for it. Until otherwise proven I suppose my Scrambler is the only bike in the world that has been driven with both Andreani and Ohlins forks.
First impressions: Not worth it. If original forks are 1 and Ohlins are 10, Andreani are about 8. I cant really put my finger on the actual difference, all I can do is resort to phrases like "more harmonic" and "confidence-inspiring".. for all I know they may be the effect of a lighter wallet. I did however, barely have time to pick up the bike at the dealership before the track day and still havent ridden on uneven tarmac. I usually ride a lot of B- and C-roads in horrible condition, any discernible difference is likely to manifest itself in the run of the next few weeks.
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Very happy with them. Not bothered that glass is flat at all. Easy to adjust angle when needed and once they are in location they stay put.
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I just ordered the same for my Italia Independent...and will try to install them the moment I receive them. How much of a difference is it in the riding?
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If anyone just fitted cartridges then they kept most of the original fork... its just the internals that changed.
There are a few that fitted new Ohlins forks complete... so that would mean they have the old ones...
There should be plenty of scrap Scramblers about by now... so may be worth checking ebay and salvage... not sure where you are located.
There are a few that fitted new Ohlins forks complete... so that would mean they have the old ones...
There should be plenty of scrap Scramblers about by now... so may be worth checking ebay and salvage... not sure where you are located.
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Any one install the fork cartridge themselves? About to do mine and the setscrew has me baffled. It looks like a 3mm hex key that has been smashed with a philips head screwdriver. I thought the screw would come out easy and it would be the threads in the chrome tube underneath that had to be ground out to not destroy the fork bottom.
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