[Joooooooosh]

Anyone else having a big problem with this?

Sticky orange rust water is constantly leaking out of the threaded mounting points on the subframe under my seat. Even after a week of riding in no rain, I go for a ride and the back end of my bike will be covered in the stuff!

I tried filling the inside of the hollow rubber caps with grease, hoping the water was just sitting inside of them but I'm guessing the water is sitting somewhere else...

Does anyone know if the trellis frame has drain holes lower down, I can't find any. Very worrying considering the subframe is totally open at each side of the rear light. I don't want to be carrying around a load of water inside my frame!

It's getting all over my indicators and makes the back of the bike look a real mess.
Next I'm going to try finding some rubber to seal the end of the frame and replace the rubber caps with some short screws.

 

[Plantboy]

What happened to your 4 x rubber bungs? Maybe that mudguard was good for something. ;-)

 

[Joooooooosh]

What happened to your 4 x rubber bungs? Maybe that mudguard was good for something. ;-)

They are still there. The watery mess is coming out of them regardless.
Stock 'mudguards' are still there. The plate holder on the swing arm and the token effort on the front wheel...

 

[Plantboy]

NFI then.......

 

[vincelp]

Hello

It's quite difficult to understand, without pics, what's happening.

Anyhow, don't plug things anywhere in the frame holes, if humidity is in, it won't be able to go out and rust will make the job inside.

 

[Joooooooosh]

Managed to add a few pictures now.
I'm working late at the moment, so needed some daylight.

If I take the rubber caps out, the screw hole is just full of this horrible stuff. It would make sense if it was only there after rain or a wash but it keeps coming even days after the bike sees any water!

This is what makes me think the bike is holding water somewhere.

 

[Mr Munck]

That's about the strangest thing I have ever seen.. are you certain you aren't the victim of a poorly conceived practical joke? Is someone spraying goop into your bike frame at night?

 

[TC3]

Managed to add a few pictures now.
I'm working late at the moment, so needed some daylight.

If I take the rubber caps out, the screw hole is just full of this horrible stuff. It would make sense if it was only there after rain or a wash but it keeps coming even days after the bike sees any water!

This is what makes me think the bike is holding water somewhere.

Very odd that. I just fitted the Kriega side pannier bits and found no evidence of any orange gunk when removing the plastic covers. Might have to strip the back of bike down a bit to look for hidden drainage holes that might be blocked?

 

[Joooooooosh]

Very odd that. I just fitted the Kriega side pannier bits and found no evidence of any orange gunk when removing the plastic covers. Might have to strip the back of bike down a bit to look for hidden drainage holes that might be blocked?

Bike is in having the mileage counter corrected at the Dealer in Lincoln Thursday, seems like a good time to ask about it.
Glad I'm not the only one confused by this.

 

[TC3]

Bike is in having the mileage counter corrected at the Dealer in Lincoln Thursday, seems like a good time to ask about it.
Glad I'm not the only one confused by this.

Hope they can find the cause of this. Hate to say it but you been Tangoed

 

[Simon Audi]

I get similar after I wash the bike

Rusty water draining from the holes

As you say there is rust going on inside

Maybe better to dry it as best you can with a hair dryer blowing air inside then spray something like wax oil inside tubes?

Mine is only minor and I try not to wash the bike - use cloths and wet wipes to clean. Then silicone spray to polish and keep it from corroding.

 

[Joooooooosh]

I get similar after I wash the bike
Rusty water draining from the holes
As you say there is rust going on inside
Maybe better to dry it as best you can with a hair dryer blowing air inside then spray something like wax oil inside tubes?
Mine is only minor and I try not to wash the bike - use cloths and wet wipes to clean. Then silicone spray to polish and keep it from corroding.

With how dirty I get it, wet wipes aren't going to cut it! ha.
What I don't get, is that you'd expect water to drain down the pipe, not hang around at the highest point. Weird.

 

[MartinSK]

Strange..
I noticed little rust in the mounting points yesterday, when I re-attached mounting brackets for the bags, but nothing major.
It sure looks like a well thought practical joke to me so far.
If there is a drain plug hole somwhere and it is blocked I can imagine that after numerous times in rain and lot of washing the bike afterwards, you would have your frame full of water and it eventually "splashes" out from those mounting holes maybe?? Just a thought..

 

[vincelp]

Hello

Did you install frame plugs ? Just a thought...

 

[greer]

I had a good bit of that with my bike early on, too. Since I've put bolts in the holes for my rigged bag mounts I've never had any more of it. I think I'd spray a can of WD40 or some such in the holes and cap them off with bolts (M8-1.25) and just see how it goes.

Sarah

 

[Graeme]

I have the sv motech legend panniers and have noticed a slight rust stain coming from the fixing point on the bike frame. It wipes away easy enough and nothing like as bad as the photos posted but does suggest water is getting in.

 

[Joooooooosh]

Hello

Did you install frame plugs ? Just a thought...

Nooope. No frame plugs of mods to the frame of any kind. Going to have to see where I can find some M8 boots with a fine thread.

Still worried about what's going on inside the fame though...

 

[vincelp]

Before putting something in the holes, you need to understand whether it's only some remaining humidity which goes out or if it's permanent humidity coming from somewhere else.
If the second option is valid, putting something in the holes will keep the humidity in the frame and that's not good.

Have a look at any frame (bike or cycle), they are always opened so that air can be changed in it.

 

[Joooooooosh]

Before putting something in the holes, you need to understand whether it's only some remaining humidity which goes out or if it's permanent humidity coming from somewhere else.
If the second option is valid, putting something in the holes will keep the humidity in the frame and that's not good.

Have a look at any frame (bike or cycle), they are always opened so that air can be changed in it.

I'm wondering if I do seal up the ends of the frame, maybe caps over the end with a small hole in the middle.

That way I'm just making the holes smaller, not totally blocking them. Just making it harder for water to get in.

 

[stavely]

I'm wondering if I do seal up the ends of the frame, maybe caps over the end with a small hole in the middle.

That way I'm just making the holes smaller, not totally blocking them. Just making it harder for water to get in.

That'll work Joooosh, as long as there is some small ventilation the frame internal will eventually dry out.