Ok , I sold my other bike and Im going to buy a DS. My local dealer has a red 2017 w/10 miles for $12k or a white 2018 demo w/1000 miles with first service done for $10.5k. A dealer 100 miles away has a 2018 red new but wont give a price over the phone other than retail. i guess they figure I will shop them against my local dealer, BMW-Ducati of Charlotte NC. I really like the red ones. The only dealer add on i would get is heated grips. I know any warranty work I needed done i would take local, but if I dont buy from them, I may get slower service. But if i cant get a better deal on a 2017, then a short road trip would be in order.Along with being excited about a new bike, I now have myself all confused. So, you DS owners...give me your opinions.