[Airsafari87]

Hopefully somebody will be able to answer a few questions I have in regard to Rexxer maps.
I have had a look at the various bits and pieces on the threads on here, but haven't managed to find the information I am looking for.

Firstly the bike is a 2016 Full Throttle with the standard Termi Shotgun exhausts.
NO mods as yet.

Planned engine mods in order are :-
1. Rexxer upgrade to sort out the terrible factory fuelling. I understand that I will get a mild performance upgrade also.
2. Different exhaust with cat delete (SC Projects single Conic or the CR-T are the ones grabbing my attention at the minute)
3. Airbox and filter upgrade.

Now from what I understand about Rexxer, there are 2 main options available.
1. Send your ECU away to be flashed to suit the modifications you have already made.
2. Buy the handheld unit?? and flash the ECU yourself with a more generic type map?
Please correct me if I am mistaken with any of that information above?

Because I initially want to fix the poor fuelling, and then upgrade the bike as I go along, I would like to buy the hand held unit and flash the ECU after each modification.

The questions I have are (and hopefully somebody will be able to give me some guidance)
1. Will the Rexxer work as I want with the standard bike set up?
2. Will I be able to reflash the ECU after each upgrade?
3. Are the handheld units available in the UK?
4. What is the approximate cost of the unit?

Thanks in advance.

 

[TC3]

If you buy the unit you will get the same map as what Rexxer will put on the ECU as in both cases the map is based on your set up.

The Rexxer is used to read the oem map. You send the file to Rexxer and they return that map on file but also add additional maps based on your set up. When you buy the unit you normally get 1 map but ask for a second for free and they will do it as part of the deal. You can flash after each upgrade but any additional maps cost you extra, I do not know how much.

You can use the Rexxer with standard bike set up and it does smooth out fuelling. However it would make sense to first get the exhaust (the air filter too would be a good idea) you want and have them base your 1st map on that. You could then have a 2nd map based on similar but without 02 sensors or db killer etc. Its not worth getting a map for the basic set up of the bike seeing as you intend to upgrade.

I have 4 maps on my unit as follows:
1. Stock map
2. SC Projects Conic with DB killer, BMC race filter, 02 sensors enabled
3. SC Projects Conic with DB killer, BMC race filter, 02 sensors disabled
4. SC Projects Conic without DB killer, BMC race filter, 02 sensors disabled

I got my unit from Chris at Rexxer.eu. Great guy to work with and very helpful. I do not think you can buy the units in UK, just straight from Rexxer so go check out their website for prices.

 

[Airsafari87]

If you buy the unit you will get the same map as what Rexxer will put on the ECU as in both cases the map is based on your set up.

The Rexxer is used to read the oem map. You send the file to Rexxer and they retain that map on file but also add additional maps based on your set up. When you buy the unit you normally get 1 map but ask for a second for free and they will do it as part of the deal. You can flash after each upgrade but any additional maps cost you extra, I do not know how much.

You can use the Rexxer with standard bike set up and it does smooth out fuelling. However it would make sense to first get the exhaust (the air filter too would be a good idea) you want and have them base your 1st map on that. You could then have a 2nd map based on similar but without 02 sensors ot db killer etc.

I have 4 maps on my unit as follows:
1. Stock map
2. SC Projects Conic with DB killer, BMC race filter, 02 sensors enabled
3. SC Projects Conic with DB killer, BMC race filter, 02 sensors disabled
4. SC Projects Conic without DB killer, BMC race filter, 02 sensors disabled

I got my unit from Chris at Rexxer.eu. Great guy to work with and very helpful. I do not think you can buy the units in UK, just straight from Rexxer so go check out their website for prices.

Cheers TC3, that makes sense to me.

I am making the assumption that you have to flash the ECU each time you want one of the 4 maps? In other words, the maps aren't switch able while on the bike?

I have always progressively upgraded the cars / bikes I have owned, rather than throw a whole load of different things at them all at once.
I like to be able to feel what benefit each modification / upgrade gives me before moving on to the next one.
I like the incremental changes and having the knowledge that `A' does this, `B' is doing that and `C' changes this, rather than having A, B and C fitted all together and knowing that as a whole things have changed.

Therefore my main priority right now, is rectifying the fuelling.

Hopefully that makes sense and explains my reasoning behind why I intended doing the things the way I mentioned.

One thing I didn't ask previously.

Is the Rexxer warranty friendly?
I've had the bike for 5 days now, and put 350 miles on it so far. So I wouldn't install anything until after the 600 mile service anyway.

Cheers,

 

[TC3]

Cheers TC3, that makes sense to me.

I am making the assumption that you have to flash the ECU each time you want one of the 4 maps? In other words, the maps aren't switch able while on the bike?

I have always progressively upgraded the cars / bikes I have owned, rather than throw a whole load of different things at them all at once.
I like to be able to feel what benefit each modification / upgrade gives me before moving on to the next one.
I like the incremental changes and having the knowledge that `A' does this, `B' is doing that and `C' changes this, rather than having A, B and C fitted all together and knowing that as a whole things have changed.

Therefore my main priority right now, is rectifying the fuelling.

Hopefully that makes sense and explains my reasoning behind why I intended doing the things the way I mentioned.

One thing I didn't ask previously.

Is the Rexxer warranty friendly?
I've had the bike for 5 days now, and put 350 miles on it so far. So I wouldn't install anything until after the 600 mile service anyway.

Cheers,

The ECU can only hold 1 map at a time so you need to use the unit each time you want to change the map.

No idea regarding warranty friendly or not. I myself will put stock map back on at service time or in event of a claim....

 

[Mr Munck]

Warranty seems to be a dealer by dealer thing,
I spoke to mine and they told me that if my modifications don't have anything to do with what broke then they will cover it.
The example I got was, If I reflash my ECU and the frame cracks,, they will cover it,, if I reflash my ECU and melt a valve I can go screw.

 

[gcduc]

Warranty seems to be a dealer by dealer thing,
I spoke to mine and they told me that if my modifications don't have anything to do with what broke then they will cover it.
The example I got was, If I reflash my ECU and the frame cracks,, they will cover it,, if I reflash my ECU and melt a valve I can go screw.

Yep, same here in Oz. Before I modded the bike I made calls to both the insurance company and the dealer. If the mod didn't cause the claim then no issues. If it did then I am on my own. Hopefully it never becomes a problem and I don't find myself in any grey areas. Insurance policy wording is very clear on the matter too.

 

[Joooooooosh]

There is a third option. Lots of Ducati dealers in the UK have their own Rexxer units and will flash the ECU for you. (for about £250)
I'm going to assume having them do it, is going to make any warranty dispute easier.

Also, buying the home unit is around £400 & as TC3 mentioned, you get 1 map (2 if you ask)
If you're going to upgrade over a long time period, I'd suggest maybe just have a map installed on the stock bike, and then do another down the line, once you've fitted the exhaust & air filter. Perhaps they may do a deal on the second remap, as the £250 is paying for the Rexxer license, which I think is used against your ECU. So I think swapping you to an alternate map, doesn't actually consume another license...? I'm not 100% on that. (Makes sense with how the evo unit works though)

Even if it does end up costing £100 more, it seems simpler. If you like tinkering more and want several maps to switch between, obviously buy the unit. I can't see myself changing back and forth, so the one time map was enough. Bike is much improved with the exhaust + map. Adding or removing the baffle on my SC Conic doesn't seem to alter the flow enough to warrant a different map, meaning I never have a reason to change.

Another bonus, the dealer I used had done a lot of Rexxer ECU flashes. Meaning they had a lot of experience and knowledge about which of the many maps seems to work the best.
Pleasingly, the map they found works the best is a modified version of the factory Termi up-map.
The company that creates some of Rexxer's remaps got hold of it and improved it yet further.

Meaning I get the standard looking 'RACE' on my clocks during startup and I feel a bit more confident I won't have any issues resulting from it.

 

[TC3]

Josh any non standard map on the ECU will flash up the RACE text you are seeing on the dash...

 

[Joooooooosh]

Josh any non standard map on the ECU will flash up the RACE text you are seeing on the dash...

Are you sure, because the first map we tried didn't...

 

[TC3]

Are you sure, because the first map we tried didn't...

All 3 of mine do so I assumed....

 

[mr shifter]

Reflashed with Rexxer the scrambler and the SFs, race scrolls up on the scrambler but not on the fighter, both are greatly improved.

Geoff.

 

[Auriga]

Geoff,
presumably, DMC carried out the Rexxer flashing on your Scrambler. I'm tempted to have the Classic 'Rexxered' on account of the Scorpion and the to-be-fitted Piper air filter: I'm reluctant to lift the tank myself, in the light of the horror stories over broken petrol feed connections.

Sounds like you're enjoying your retirement.
Mike

 

[TC3]

Geoff,
presumably, DMC carried out the Rexxer flashing on your Scrambler. I'm tempted to have the Classic 'Rexxered' on account of the Scorpion and the to-be-fitted Piper air filter: I'm reluctant to lift the tank myself, in the light of the horror stories over broken petrol feed connections.

Sounds like you're enjoying your retirement.
Mike

No need to lift the tank at all if you want to add an aftermarket air filter

 

[Auriga]

Thanks. I had seen page 603 onwards on the PDF of the Service Manual and thought this was necessary, to disconnect the voltage regulator: presumably, that is not necessary, either, though page 86, too, states that it should be done. I will try the latter procedure, carefully.

 

[gcduc]

Thanks. I had seen page 603 onwards on the PDF of the Service Manual and thought this was necessary, to disconnect the voltage regulator: presumably, that is not necessary, either, though page 86, too, states that it should be done. I will try the latter procedure, carefully.

There is a whole thread devoted to changing the air filter. New Air Filter

It is full of good and bad advice. A few of us actually did it, pay attention to those posts - such as post #35 that I did. You do need to loosen the voltage regulator.

 

[Auriga]

Many thanks for that. I have Torx Allens and a ramp, so plenty of working room. Just need the nous, then.