A chat with a local dealer revealed (and I'm sure you all know this already...) some specifics, as he reads them, about the new 'junior' scrambler that is due out. He states that the new 400cc will still be a twin (so not just lopping off a cylinder) and will use the same frame. He reckons it will look the same as the 803 maybe in different colour schemes/trim levels. I wondered how the current scrambler owners view this decision considering the fact the 803 is a small looking bike and would be seen, possibly, as no different to the A2-friendly one. I for one dont want to field comments about me riding a 'learner' bike, but more crucially, do not want my beloved bike being devalued by this confusion. Does anyone have any more details? and what do y'all think about the forthcoming newborn Duke?
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In actuality, our bikes are "mids" (with 800 engines). I can't see where the addition of a light weight, small bore would depreciate the value of the current models. It may even help, with the addition of new riders eventually wanting to trade up.
The lighter weight would make the new one a little more manageable in the woods, especially on the steep stuff and would probably provide enough pep to keep it interesting everywhere else.
I'm looking forward to it.
Cliff
The lighter weight would make the new one a little more manageable in the woods, especially on the steep stuff and would probably provide enough pep to keep it interesting everywhere else.
I'm looking forward to it.
Cliff
I just figured it removes an 'exclusivity' to the brand (Scrambler) by not having a redesign for the 'lesser' bike, thus reducing an appeal of the bigger bike. I was also looking forward to it, even having discussed its inclusion in my garage with my partner, until I was told there would be no discernable difference in appearance. I've no problem with the dip in power etc, just the 'brand' approach I guess...
Not sure as a learner I would go for this and 'trade up' later in preference to restricting the bigger one until passing the test.
Just a thought. (A more functional/purposeful off-road look, blend with the original 350 scrambler.......just day-dreaming...)
Not sure as a learner I would go for this and 'trade up' later in preference to restricting the bigger one until passing the test.
Just a thought. (A more functional/purposeful off-road look, blend with the original 350 scrambler.......just day-dreaming...)
That would be nice! Not much better than getting off the pavement.
Wow, so you care more about if others think you are cool when you pull up at the cafe, than just beeing happy about your bike? Do you have selfesteem issues? I don't fucking care what other people think about my bike as öpmg as I like it. It's nice if people like my bike, too, but I don't need anyones opinion to be happy. Some beginners driving with a bike that looks alike? I couldn't care less. All the 1199/1299 Panigale drivers survived the same situation for years, so I think you will make it, too.
Nice one Retikulum. Speak your mind. A few assumptions there but thanks for the opinion. The Scrambler I would say owes as much of its success to its look and its nod toward perception of a culture as it does its ride/performance, so it would surprise me if its look were as unimportant as you suggest. The thread was started merely for a conversation on these aesthetics, no offence meant. Forums to a certain degree are there for assistance as well as a platform for opinion, so to take part is in a way indicative of an interest in others opinions.
As for my self-esteem issues, not really up for discussion on a bike forum
As for my self-esteem issues, not really up for discussion on a bike forum
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I haven't got any particular feelings over it - I understand what you're saying but don't think it will detract from the 803 Scrambler. If a smaller engined Scrambler has different trim/colour schemes then that will make it a little 'different' anyway! There are bikes such as the KTM Duke which come in various engine sizes and look pretty similar, but we don't know for sure what will be revealed yet 
Bravo, Spokegg!
As for personal issues, I wouldn't even know where to begin. There are just so many of them.
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Anyway not long to wait - Motorcycle Live at NEC is on soon
"Ducati UK will be exhibiting the new 2016 Ducati line up at Motorcycle Live. This will be the first UK showing of many new models from Ducati and Scrambler brands, so make sure you get to see them 1st. alongside will be the Ducati retail shop selling clothing gifts etc for motorcycle enthusiasts"
"Ducati UK will be exhibiting the new 2016 Ducati line up at Motorcycle Live. This will be the first UK showing of many new models from Ducati and Scrambler brands, so make sure you get to see them 1st. alongside will be the Ducati retail shop selling clothing gifts etc for motorcycle enthusiasts"
Haha wasn't ment to insult anyone, just to give a strong and different opinion tp the discussion. Of course the looks are very important, of not the deciding argument for the Scrambler, but your bike doesn't suddenly become ugly if the neighbours kid drives a 400cc Scrambler. You can buy a Mercedes C class with a 1.6L diesel or with a 4L V8! The people hear and feel the difference!
Wasn't suggesting ugly, just diminished in value. The C class Merc was not released as a brand within a brand model; ie there were always going to be variations and different stipulations. In my view, the Scramblers strength at launch was, in part, down to its singularity.
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All this talk of Scrambler devaluation makes me laugh. It sounds so elitist. I wonder if "real" Ducati riders thought the same of their precious rolling treasures after the cheap ass Scrambler came out. Hear how silly that sounds?
Not necessarily. It would be a conversation. Considering the inference in your post, being a 'real' Ducati rider and referring to the Scrambler as 'cheap ass', I would suggest elitism is rife. I apologise in general to all those postees that struggle with conversations and threads that they think below them. My suggestion is dont read 'em. It's a Scrambler forum after all. I had hoped to find banter as opposed to attitude. My bad. I shall crawl back under my misinformed rock and leave you grown-ups to your mutual tugging while I indulge the sunny weather and the cheap ass bike I am currently enjoying. A bien tot
Oh boohoo, eat a snickers!
In other Ducati online forums the Scrambler often wasn't seen as a real Ducati, similar to the Hyperstrada. Do we care? No^^ neither do I care about people thinking the 800cc Scrambler is a 400cc Scrambler.
In my opinion this is a major problem these days, the people are all about what the others think about them, and do and buy things just to be cool. And what for? 10000$ that the neighbour looks over envious once a week?
Do it! Spend the money, but only because you like it! Give a fuck on what others think and you will be a lot more relaxed.
In other Ducati online forums the Scrambler often wasn't seen as a real Ducati, similar to the Hyperstrada. Do we care? No^^ neither do I care about people thinking the 800cc Scrambler is a 400cc Scrambler.
In my opinion this is a major problem these days, the people are all about what the others think about them, and do and buy things just to be cool. And what for? 10000$ that the neighbour looks over envious once a week?
Do it! Spend the money, but only because you like it! Give a fuck on what others think and you will be a lot more relaxed.
Thanks for your concern. I'm very relaxed now.
Can't we all just enjoy the ride?
Maybe Rodney King was right (after the beat - down).
Mean time, in 'merica, we may have to choose between Hillary "CacklesThe Pantsuit Clown" Clinton and Donald "T-Rump" as our next Iron Fist.
It's already hard enough without even trying...
Cliff
BTW , BOO! Happy Halloween
ps
Google "How Not To Get Beat Up By The Police" by Chris Rock, if you haven't yet.
Maybe Rodney King was right (after the beat - down).
Mean time, in 'merica, we may have to choose between Hillary "CacklesThe Pantsuit Clown" Clinton and Donald "T-Rump" as our next Iron Fist.
It's already hard enough without even trying...
Cliff
BTW , BOO! Happy Halloween
ps
Google "How Not To Get Beat Up By The Police" by Chris Rock, if you haven't yet.
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You obviously missed the sarcasm and point of my post. I own a Diavel which many elitist Ducatisti claimed would cheapen Ducati. Wrong! I have a scrambler on order already.
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I was light. I thought I was being clear when I said not to worry about devaluation. Speaking from experience of owning a bastard Diavel that everyone in Ducati hates.
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