[Joooooooosh]

2017 Ducati Monster 800 Spy Shots

It seems our motor can be made to pass Euro 4 regs fairly easily. Something I didn't expect.

In some ways I'm upset the Scrambler isn't the last hurrah of the air cooled Desmo but also excited that Ducati are bringing in another 'entry level' machine. Supposedly it's to make way for the 959 Monster to get a bit more serious. (read expensive)

I'm not sure if this makes a better performing Scrambler less likely or not. You have to assume the 803 lump in the Monster will be closer to the specs of the old 796, to place it above the Scrambler.

At the very least, this might make a front fork/brake upgrade simpler, if the two bikes share a similar frame.

 

[mr shifter]

Yes the 796 monster is back with quite afew scrambler bits and bobs, should make a nice bike.

Geoff.

 

[ash73]

Much bigger fuel tank, which is the Scrambler's Achilles heel.

 

[Joooooooosh]

Much bigger fuel tank, which is the Scrambler's Achilles heel.

I don't know. 115 miles without a break is more than enough for me!
You're not thinking like an Italian... The next coffee shop is never that far!

 

[Yeti]

The 803 has plenty of grunt for any 400lb motorcycle intended for street riding...more so given the factory gearing.

I doubt they'll stray from the 11 deg cam overlap (to maintain emissions) and don't know how much they'd get out of a more radical lift given where peak TQ(HP) is with the current spec engine.

Maybe higher compression ratio 12.5:1?
Maybe bore & destroke for higher redline... then new cams, larger throttle bodies, etc...???

I honestly don't see them sinking that kind of $$$ (over and above existing 803) if they want to keep it affordable and entry-level

My money is on same engine AND gearing

 

[Yeti]

Much bigger fuel tank, which is the Scrambler's Achilles heel.

the seat will get you before you run out of fuel

 

[Joooooooosh]

The 803 has plenty of grunt for any 400lb motorcycle intended for street riding...more so given the factory gearing.

I doubt they'll stray from the 11 deg cam overlap (to maintain emissions) and don't know how much they'd get out of a more radical lift given where peak TQ(HP) is with the current spec engine.

Maybe higher compression ratio 12.5:1?
Maybe bore & destroke for higher redline... then new cams, larger throttle bodies, etc...???

I honestly don't see them sinking that kind of $$$ (over and above existing 803) if they want to keep it affordable and entry-level

My money is on same engine AND gearing

I just can't see them introducing a new Monster that has lower performance specs than the previous 796. Very Un-Ducati. I can't think of a model that was updated without at least a minor bump in specs. The gearing will be changed for sure. The Scrambler is super short and the 796 was stupidly long. Somewhere in the middle would be nice...

 

[Yeti]

Will it also be less expensive than previous?

I see your point on the gearing

Maybe 4V heads?

 

[Joooooooosh]

Will it also be less expensive than previous?

I see your point on the gearing

Maybe 4V heads?

It used to be priced at about £8000, so there is no way it will be that cheap. I think it will be above the Scrambler, It's going to have beefier suspension, brakes and a sturdier frame than the Scramblers.
Likely slot in below the Monster/Hyper range which starts at £10000, so £9/9.5k, with the S model over £10k.

Maybe 4V, probably go back to duel throttle bodies and likely tuned to run a bit more peak horsepower at the expense of a peakier torque delivery.

 

[Yeti]

It used to be priced at about £8000, so there is no way it will be that cheap. I think it will be above the Scrambler, It's going to have beefier suspension, brakes and a sturdier frame than the Scramblers.
Likely slot in below the Monster/Hyper range which starts at £10000, so £9/9.5k, with the S model over £10k.

Maybe 4V, probably go back to duel throttle bodies and likely tuned to run a bit more peak horsepower at the expense of a peakier torque delivery.

Dual 45mm throttle bodies...
Wonder how different cam specs are and if they would fit and run in the Scrambler with a single 50mm TB, drawing breath from a "significantly modified"airbox and some Rexxer tuning?