[Tonymoulls]

Some of you might remember that my Termignoni race slip on broke after about 200-300 miles of it being fitted by the dealership... well i had it replaced with no issues and all going well... a month later and guess what... yep! It's broken again, exactly the same thing.

So after speaking to the dealership and them speaking to Ducati and Termignoni it turns out i'm the only person in the whole of europe to have had this problem ONCE let alone TWICE!!!

They are replacing it under warranty again but said if it happens again they are going to take my bike in for a week and make sure it's running right, they said it could be vibrations or the engine not running properly causing the welds to break.

Anyone on here had the same problem? I'm starting to get a bit pissed off with it!

(For those that don't know... the part of exhaust that looks like a can that sits underneath the bike (the resonator) is basically to redirect the flow of gasses so it's not a "straight through" exhaust system, this just dampens the exhaust note so it isn't ridiculously loud. It has a plate welded inside it that the gasses flow round, it's the welds that hold this plate in place that keep breaking causing the plate to rattle around... it's a pain in the ass!)

 

[littleowl]

Blimey unlucky or what .. :ambivalence: hope they get to the bottom of the problem for you!

 

[Tonymoulls]

Thanks! They have already said they are changing it under warranty thank god! To top things off my Alpinestars jacket zip has just broken and it's only 8 months old! Another warranty issue... not good!

 

[c turner]

Slow down, Tony!

Life is long, Young Squire...

You keep breaking things at this rate, you'll have nothing left at thirty.

Cliff

 

[DaveK]

Sorry to hear that the second Termi has also broken. I have 4000 miles on mine with no problems... But, I have been listening for that broken sound as you describe it.

 

[ELVISTO]

You're a bit of a wrecker Tony
Not heard of anyone else having problems, but it could be their welds on both cans, and you've just been unlucky to get two faulty ones,
Wouldn't have thought your bikes not running properly, I'm sure you would have noticed it, Good thing is it was fitted by the dealer, so they can't blame you,

 

[Let The Good Times Roll]

Tony - my Termi had the same problem about 1 month ago at approx. 1200 Klms. You could actually see the broken baffle through the inlet pipe.
My dealer in Adelaide just had a listen, ordered a new Termi, when it arrived we swapped it over. They made it very painless for me.
Whats interesting is you mentioned that it could be caused by vibration. If that's the case this second one of mine wont last long because its mounted directly to the footpeg mounting point, whereas the first one needed the dogbone hanger to fit, which had an extra 2 rubber washer thingies which would have insulated it much better.
So, Tony, you aren't the only one and mine must have been registered with Ducati warranty department because it was replaced free under the warranty system.
Regards - Ray

 

[greer]

I may be wrong, but I'm thinking this is the same problem AnotherHobby has had time and again.

Sarah

 

[AnotherHobby]

I may be wrong, but I'm thinking this is the same problem AnotherHobby has had time and again.

Yep. Same thing. It's a bad design.

 

[Tonymoulls]

I don't think it's anything i'm doing to the bike as other have had the same issue... at least i hope it's nothing i've done!

I've seen the post by AnotherHobby on here so if the dealer questions me i'll show them his post too, glad i'm not the only one this has happened to, although i am the only one in the UK and possibly Europe? Quite an achievement actually :excitement:

Ray (Let The Good Times Roll) that's quite surprising that they have fixed it to the foot peg mounting and not used the rubber mounting! I guess it is a vibration thing but only because the welds are so bad on some of the pipes, if yours has strong welds then it shouldn't be an issue but i'd question the dealer as to why they haven't used the dogbone with rubber mounts.
The dealership are changing the resonator with no problems at all, they just cant work out why they are breaking. I have told them that apparently some of the Termi welds have been known to fail (that's what i've been told anyway) but they said they've never had a termi exhaust with broken welds before on the scrambler.

Fingers crossed this is third time lucky!!

 

[Let The Good Times Roll]

Tony - sorry I didn't explain it very well.
My first termi was mounted to the footpeg mounting point with the dogbone bit. In the early days of this forum we had a discussion going on how some of us were using the dogbone and some had mounted their termi without the dog bone. I removed my dogbone to try to mount it without but I had to force the termi upwards so much that I was putting too much force on the whole system. So I remounted it with the dogbone and always wondered how come there are some of us using the dogbone and some of us aren't.
When I got my replacement termi for some unknown reason I didn't need the dogbone. The hole in the termi bracket (that has a rubber insert) just lined up with the mounting point on the bottom of the footpeg support arm thingie. I guess they might have changed the design a bit because if you look at the instruction sheet that comes with the termi, there is only one dogbone shown and that's for the left side mounting and also the termi kit only comes with one dogbone.
By the way - it looks a lot better mounted without the dogbone - it follows the same line as the footpeg arm and is mounted higher as well.
I just want to be clear here because you mentioned "and not used the rubber mounting". I still use the rubber washers that are fitted to the mounting bracket on the right side of the termi. Without them you would have a huge hole and it would be a nightmare to mount. I am just not using the dogbone link (which has 2 blue coloured rubber washer things) on the right hand side, but still use the dogbone on the left side.
If I have confused you, please yell out. P.S. try a search and you will see our early posts/threads on the different ways we mounted them.
Regards - Ray.

 

[c turner]

You guys are scaring me- I have a Termi, too...

Of course, I ride like an old guy, but the thing shouldn't fail either way.

Thank god we are all still under warranty

 

[AnotherHobby]

My dealership dropped the ball and I haven't got my 2nd replacement yet, but I hardly ever notice the rattle. It's there, but I wouldn't be surprised if others have it and just don't notice it.

Also, I had the same dog bone fitment issue with my first one that Ray described above, but the second one fit correctly.

 

[Don_D]

Has anyone posted a pic or audio of this when its broken? I know its covered under warranty but how hard would it be to just remove the piece thats broken and be done with it?

Nevermind, I found AnotherHobby's post and video's. Thanks for that BTW!

 

[timigriff]

Some of you might remember that my Termignoni race slip on broke after about 200-300 miles of it being fitted by the dealership... well i had it replaced with no issues and all going well... a month later and guess what... yep! It's broken again, exactly the same thing.

So after speaking to the dealership and them speaking to Ducati and Termignoni it turns out i'm the only person in the whole of europe to have had this problem ONCE let alone TWICE!!!

They are replacing it under warranty again but said if it happens again they are going to take my bike in for a week and make sure it's running right, they said it could be vibrations or the engine not running properly causing the welds to break.

Anyone on here had the same problem? I'm starting to get a bit pissed off with it!

(For those that don't know... the part of exhaust that looks like a can that sits underneath the bike (the resonator) is basically to redirect the flow of gasses so it's not a "straight through" exhaust system, this just dampens the exhaust note so it isn't ridiculously loud. It has a plate welded inside it that the gasses flow round, it's the welds that hold this plate in place that keep breaking causing the plate to rattle around... it's a pain in the ass!)

Hi Tony, I had termi fitted from new on my Full Throttle back in April, had same problem with resonator and it was replaced under warranty on its first service. what i have noticed is the fit is not the best when trying to mount the bracket and keep the pipes aligned so i`ve decided to do away with the resonator and get a short pipe made up to join downpipes direct to tailpipe. I`ll post some pictures when done.........

 

[c turner]

Careful there, Tim...

Simply removing the resonator may be enough to throw the map off ideal.

Cliff

 

[timigriff]

Careful there, Tim...

Simply removing the resonator may enough to throw the map off ideal.

Cliff

Hi Cliff, thanks for advice but i really didn`t think that extra bit of pipe and baffles would effect the fueling that much, i thought it was more to do with sound reduction. I was planning on having it remapped next spring. I did have a new map uploaded when the the exhaust was fitted but i still get a lot of back firing on closed throttle. Also i noticed that other after market exhaust suppliers ie, Akrapovic,Scorpion etc all do away with the resonator box, any thoughts?

 

[c turner]

Think of the entire engine as one system. From the air box to the tailpipe, gases (air included) move through the unit at a measured flow. This creates pressures that need to be regulated precisely. Removing a section or by-passing a unit will obviously change the fueling setup created when the ECU was flashed. Any changes would require a new map to maintain proper flow.

Sure, your bike will still run without it's resonator. It will just sound like shit.

Really LOUD shit!

Cliff

 

[c turner]

With regards to the "back firing" you mentioned, our friend, Tonyjuliano has a step-by-step on this forum explaining how to overcome the secondary air intake system. Doing this will greatly reduce the "bangs".

I actually want to let the cage next to me know I exist. A little clutch and throttle usually does the trick. POW!

 

[timigriff]

Think of the entire engine as one system. From the air box to the tailpipe, gases (air included) move through the unit at a measured flow. This creates pressures that need to be regulated precisely. Removing a section or by-passing a unit will obviously change the fueling setup created when the ECU was flashed. Any changes would require a new map to maintain proper flow.

Sure, your bike will still run without it's resonator. It will just sound like shit.

Really LOUD shit!

Cliff

Thanks for the advice, i dont mind loud but dont like shit, think i`ll leave well alone for now. Might still have a remap next spring, Has anybody had a remap apart from one supplied with the Termi?