Termi has arrived but no instuctions/missing

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Albie

Discussion Starter · Apr 13, 2015

Hi guys Termi stubby race hass arrived all neat in a big padded box all sealed and checklist says instruction manual/sheet. Oh that's not in there. It will be easy enough for me to figure out as Black belt in Ikea building but if anyone does have info sheet can you advise nut bolt correct fitment. Most is obvious and will see when fitting.

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Albie

Discussion Starter · #21 · Apr 16, 2015

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Ok after looking at Jerry's dealer fitted detail pic's ( thanks too matey ) and looking at the Ducati factory termi beasta unleasha video and pausing on the moment I see I seem to have had it correct if that is correct and they had official instructions from Termignoni, no reason why they didn't.

So by looking at what was supplied and it was obvious to me by the diameters of rubbers that the bracket is sandwiched by these and the aluminium stepped washer flange and penny washer.

In my opinion they would not leave these out as I did on second attempt and when used in conjunction it put the bolt and nut very close to the swingarm and at an angle.

Now a few phone calls to mates who work in dealers say no dealer has yet had the fitting instructions come to them with the exhausts as mine did not and had been struggling to identify how they should have them. I find this not great from Termignoni but kind of not surprised.

So with a open mind I set it all up bit by bit and attempted to make it right and almost there but the exhaust bracket not only needs a longer bolt by at least 5mm

It's bracket top needs either grinding flat or as I have done added a 3mm washer/spacer to move it away from the bottom of the footrest hanger which would have either rubbed the paint and metal away or stopped flex on the exhaust if needed.

I am now more happy with it and will get a better less obvious headed bolt ( stainless domed ) and an aluminium 3mm x 15mm diameter spacer made by a friend.

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frankoducati

· #22 · Apr 22, 2015

Albie said:
I like yellow

pretty,looking for a blue LS2-3 100

SailorJerry

· #23 · Apr 24, 2015

Hi Albie, I installed my Termi last night and came to the exact same conclusion for fitment with the parts supplied as well - the supplied bolt is not long enough to accomodate all the supplied washers, bungs etc. I had to do some jiggery and lose a bung to get it to fit. Nice write BTW. I will be waiting till the 1000 km service to have my dealer install the up-map.

Grinning ear to ear with the baffle out

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Albie

Discussion Starter · #24 · Apr 24, 2015

SailorJerry said:
Hi Albie, I installed my Termi last night and came to the exact same conclusion for fitment with the parts supplied as well - the supplied bolt is not long enough to accomodate all the supplied washers, bungs etc. I had to do some jiggery and lose a bung to get it to fit. Nice write BTW. I will be waiting till the 1000 km service to have my dealer install the up-map.

Grinning ear to ear with the baffle out

Still doubting anyone has actually fitted it correct then with either parts missing or with the correct parts completely without getting a longer bolt.

DownShift_Studio

· #25 · May 8, 2015

Thanks for posting this. From past experience I thought fitting this would be a no brainer but I was wrong. I didn't use half of the hardware provided - most of it seemed like the exact same parts that held the stock exhaust on (The bike only had 12 miles on it when I installed the system). I also had to tweak things around a bit to get them to fit correctly, or as correctly as I could determine because of lack of instructions online or in the box! It does look and sound killer once installed though... I haven't re-mapped yet but it doesn't seem that bad actually. Just a bit of popping once in awhile on decel...

AnotherHobby

· #26 · May 8, 2015

Albie said:
Still doubting anyone has actually fitted it correct then with either parts missing or with the correct parts completely without getting a longer bolt.

I completely agree with you and I'm also convinced the Termi cannot be fit correctly with the parts they include. I also want to thank you for posting the pictures of how you did it, because it worked perfectly for me and I'm happy with how it's mounted (with a longer bolt and some spacer washers to keep from rubbing).

My brother is picking his red Icon up today, and he had the dealer fit the Termi. I'm very interested to see how they did it. I'll post pics of what they did later.

AnotherHobby

· #27 · May 8, 2015

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This is how the dealer installed my brother's Termi. This is also how I tried to install mine at first, but this position made the resonator twisted to an angle on the opposite side so it wouldn't reach the mount correctly. I'm not sure if the dealer forced it or if it just lined up right, but this actually looks pretty correct to me, and in fact more correct that how mine is mounted (same as Albie's). I think this also uses all of the parts and pieces that come with it.

I may try a second attempt at this. I think it looks a little cleaner.

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DownShift_Studio

· #28 · May 8, 2015

That's how I tried to mount mine but things were binding so badly that it didn't seem correct. To get mine to this point I had to really force it to fit. When I saw the resonator all twisted up I thought to myself that it couldn't be correct. Maybe I'll take another stab at it as well. Thanks for posting this...

DownShift_Studio

· #29 · May 8, 2015

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AnotherHobby

· #30 · May 8, 2015

DownShift_Studio said:
That's how I tried to mount mine but things were binding so badly that it didn't seem correct. To get mine to this point I had to really force it to fit. When I saw the resonator all twisted up I thought to myself that it couldn't be correct. Maybe I'll take another stab at it as well. Thanks for posting this...

Yep, I had the exact same issue. If you look at his mount, there is no binding in the rubber bushings, so I think it's clean. I'm going to ask the dealer if there is a trick.

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DownShift_Studio

· #31 · May 8, 2015

Thanks for checking! I chalked it up as being a brand new platform with possible Termi manufacturing tolerance issues.

greer

· #32 · May 9, 2015

Thanks for the good pictures and details in the thread, this will help a ton of folks.

Sarah

Let The Good Times Roll

· #33 · May 10, 2015

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Solution for badly fitting Termi exhaust

Firstly - an apology to anybody who has posted a similar solution.

I will put this on both Scrambler forums.

My Termi was dealer fitted and the bracket on the Termi was jammed solid under the foot peg arm

( like so many others)

This negates the benefit of the rubbers in the hangers and places stress on the whole exhaust system plus transmits vibration through the bike. I can't understand how anybody could mount it this way and not know it was wrong - no wonder we dont trust dealers.

Please refer to my photos for the simple solution.

The main points are:

* Its simple - took about 15 minutes.

* There is enough "meat" in the top of the bracket. Even the original welds are untouched. There is

no weakening of the mounting.

*This is the "relaxed" position for the mounting of the Termi. I removed/replaced it enough times to

know this is its natural position. It is not under any stress or force including the header pipes.

I think I know why this problem has happened - if you look at the bracket on the Termi (from the outside) you will notice at approx the 2 O'clock position there is a cutout similar to the one that I have filed at the top of the bracket. I believe this cutout was meant to be at the top of the bracket but the communication between Ducati and Termi went very wrong in the design/development stage. There is no other reason for that cutout.

Hope this helps a bit.

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Albie

Discussion Starter · #34 · May 16, 2015

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Ok someone has bought a boxed system and low and behold has fitting instructions in it

It seems you DONT fit the dog bone to the exhaust side fitting.
Here is the detail

Will attempt a refit tomorrow morning.

Hope it puts it all to bed even though mine has been fine I would prefer it tucked in a bit more. Oh and my baffles are now out so the CHIRP has gone.

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Jojo10t

· #35 · May 16, 2015 (Edited)

Hi Albie, Do you know how easy it is to put the baffle back in? Is there instructions for doing that?
Good to see the instructions posted. Cheers

AnotherHobby

· #36 · May 16, 2015

For the record, I just tried to remount this thing according to the instructions about 30 minutes ago, and it was a no go. I don't know why, but it won't line up, just like the first time I tried. I'm bummed, but f-it, I give up. It's back to being mounted the same way you did.

Albie

Discussion Starter · #37 · May 16, 2015

Jojo10t said:
Hi Albie, Do you know how easy it is to put the baffle back in? Is there instructions for doing that?
Good to see the instructions posted. Cheers

No idea other than popping it back in until the screw hole lines up. At least it has a bar you can tug it out if too far in and due to its shape should not need rotating.

Albie

Discussion Starter · #38 · May 16, 2015

AnotherHobby said:
For the record, I just tried to remount this thing according to the instructions about 30 minutes ago, and it was a no go. I don't know why, but it won't line up, just like the first time I tried. I'm bummed, but f-it, I give up. It's back to being mounted the same way you did.

Oh. The guy Steve ( don't know if on here as was on FB ) had pics with it fitted. Sorry if a no go but his showed without. I will try tomorrow and report back but if not will be filing that bracket manufactured wrongly by Termignoni

AnotherHobby

· #39 · May 16, 2015

Albie said:
Oh. The guy Steve ( don't know if on here as was on FB ) had pics with it fitted. Sorry if a no go but his showed without. I will try tomorrow and report back but if not will be filing that bracket manufactured wrongly by Termignoni

Yep. I also posted pics of my brother's mounted the same way. It looks better, and I'd really prefer it, but mine won't do it. It's like the slip-on part needs to slid down toward the resonator by another 1/2 or so, but it won't. Hopefully you have better luck.

AIRider

· #40 · May 28, 2015

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I always though the Termi mounted that way did not follow the natural lines of the bike. There must be a way to mount it behind the guard.

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