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I so far have been pleased with the tread life I'm getting after seeing many people that seemed to have worn through their OEM tires seemingly quickly (to me at least). Maybe I don't beat mine hard enough, but this is after 4500 miles and I have still a decent level of tread left.

 

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Considering the price of tyres in general, I thought having an illegal rear tyre at only 3500 was a bit early. Whether or not it's riding style that wears them out more or less, the fact remains that I have done close to 13,000 miles and have only just replaced the Michelin Pilot3 on the rear that replaced my original oem. Thats 9,500 miles...
 

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It is all about riding style.

My first rear lasted just over 4000 miles and was still legal but most tyres are crap long before they hit the wear bars.
My second rear was illegal by 3000 miles because it had to deal with a tour through Germany and Switzerland.

Fast cruising on the Autobahns just shredded tread from the centre and the amazing roads of the Alps involved a lot of hard acceleration out of tight corners, which ate up the edges.

The MT-60 RS does seem pretty resistant to squaring off, considering it's just a single compound but the tyre does have a very shallow radius to it. One of the reasons I'm nervous about trying a set of Angel GT's. I really like how progressively the Scrambler rolls into corners on the standard rubber.
 

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It is all about riding style.

My first rear lasted just over 4000 miles and was still legal but most tyres are crap long before they hit the wear bars.
My second rear was illegal by 3000 miles because it had to deal with a tour through Germany and Switzerland.

Fast cruising on the Autobahns just shredded tread from the centre and the amazing roads of the Alps involved a lot of hard acceleration out of tight corners, which ate up the edges.

The MT-60 RS does seem pretty resistant to squaring off, considering it's just a single compound but the tyre does have a very shallow radius to it. One of the reasons I'm nervous about trying a set of Angel GT's. I really like how progressively the Scrambler rolls into corners on the standard rubber.
The only thing concerning me with the MT60 is depth of sipes. Seems fairly shallow vs Avon TrailMaster. I'm sure the shallow tread geometry is great for resisting deformation but how quickly will this pattern start to hydroplane once it starts wearing???
 

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I wore my rear out by 3000 miles!!

I have changed front and rear to Avon Storm 3D XM Sport/touring tyre and I'm really pleased with them,although I wasn't unhappy with the MT60RS's just thought I'd try something different.
 

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The only thing concerning me with the MT60 is depth of sipes. Seems fairly shallow vs Avon TrailMaster. I'm sure the shallow tread geometry is great for resisting deformation but how quickly will this pattern start to hydroplane once it starts wearing???
I wouldn't think of the MT60 as a true dual sport tyre. It's basically the same compound as a Diablo Rosso II to my understanding. So it's sporty road rubber, that's been dressed up to look knobbly.
People much more skilled off road than me seem to rate it as being adequate on loose gravel or hard surfaces but it's at home on the road.

I rode all through winter and I was more than happy with it's wet weather performance. I worry more about how long a tyre takes to warm up than the tread pattern, I find that's more important.
I can't say I've ever had any bike aquaplane though, the tyres are pretty skinny and rounded compared to the ski's on my car...
 

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I've got 4500 miles on the rear tire and it's done. I'll be replacing it with another MT60 RS as I love the road performance the tire offers. It's not bad on dirt roads or light mud either.

Replacing it once a year isn't bad for the amount of grip you get out of it. If I did more cruising type riding I would go with something that has a harder compound.

Any idea how much the rear MT60 costs? It seams to be a hard tire to find. My Ducati dealership had no idea how to get one when I asked them about it a few months ago.
 

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I've got 4500 miles on the rear tire and it's done. I'll be replacing it with another MT60 RS as I love the road performance the tire offers. It's not bad on dirt roads or light mud either.

Replacing it once a year isn't bad for the amount of grip you get out of it. If I did more cruising type riding I would go with something that has a harder compound.

Any idea how much the rear MT60 costs? It seams to be a hard tire to find. My Ducati dealership had no idea how to get one when I asked them about it a few months ago.
Gets pricey if like me, you're going to be doing around 10k a year. That's 3 tyres every 12 months, plus a 4th that had to be replaced due to a puncture.
I've paid £150 for the first few and just paid Ducati £185 to fit the latest, because it was just easier to have them do it this time.
 

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The MT60s were basically cooked at 5000 kms. I'm now trying the highly rated Pirelli Scorpion Trail 2s, with a narrower 100/90 on the front. All seems good with quicker turn-in and more feedback/feel from the front end than the MT60s. Dirt road road performance is at least as good as the originals and sidewalls seem much stiffer.
 

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With the new Avon TrailRiders they have OEM Fitment 180/55/ZR17 for rear but the 110/80/18 they offer is bias ply and meant for older rear applications. Avon Tech (Sales?) says the bias ply can be mounted up front but I'm not keen on the mismatch as hard as I push when riding
 

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These options all seem a bit in the wrong direction for what I'd prefer. I'm not fussed about off road performance, I just want a great road tyre.
I wish they did the new Pirelli Diablo Rosso III's in our size for the front.

Seems there are quite a few more dual sport oriented tyre options but outside of the Angel GT's and Michelin Pilot Road sport touring tyres, there isn't a true sporty option.

Clearly the answer here is a Ohlins front fork conversion and switch to a 17" wheel. Cheaper tyres will balance out the cost... right, right....?
 

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I don't think these bikes need a full on sports tyre.

Have a look at the reviews for the Avon Storm 3D XM.

It's primarily a sports tyre with longer life.

I think you'll run out of ground clearance before the tyre lets go.
 

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Based on most posts about it, I think my rear tire has done okay. I'm at 4800 miles and I think it'll be good for maybe a couple hundred more. The weird thing is that my front tire is worn down all the way to the indicator. I haven't seen any posts about something like that. This is my first bike, so maybe I've been riding weird. But the tires have worn down pretty evenly between the middle and sides for both front and rear.
 

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I don't think these bikes need a full on sports tyre.
Have a look at the reviews for the Avon Storm 3D XM.
It's primarily a sports tyre with longer life.
I think you'll run out of ground clearance before the tyre lets go.
Oh I know the Scrambler doesn't NEED sporty tyres but it didn't need a rowdy exhaust, it still got one haha

Read some reviews on the Avon, sounds solid but Visordown found it could break away quite easily in the wet, compared to a Michelin PR4.
I'm not sure I'd be brave enough to move away from Pirelli though.

I've ridden a lot of their tyres, the MT60, Rosso II, Rosso III, Angel ST, Angel GT and the SuperCorsa SP. I really liked them all, with the exception of the Angel ST.
I've never ridden anything with Avon's, so be going in blind. They look very similar to the Angel GT's though. A dual compound sport touring tyre, designed for decent mileage.

The only thing I can't find out about the Avon, is if it has different version for different classes of bikes? The Angel GT has a regular and a C spec for heavier tourers. The Avon seems to have been aimed more at heavier bikes, from the selection they used during road tests.
 

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I feel very pleased after reading all the posts here that I went with the Michelins considering the 9000 miles I got out of them. The look of the MTs was only missed for about a week and I only do road riding. Great grip, wet or dry. Not going to be riding as much in the next year so hoping these will last a year which would be great as I have had to replace chain & sprocket a bit earlier than anticipated. £240...
 

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Another vote for Michelin here. PR3s have over 6,000 miles on them and still looking good. Work great in wet or dry pavement and felt fine on dry dirt and gravel roads too.

On pavement with debris (dirt, coal dust, small stones) they can and do slip @ times but it is easy to maintain and regain control, coming off a little drift.
 

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I feel very pleased after reading all the posts here that I went with the Michelins considering the 9000 miles I got out of them. The look of the MTs was only missed for about a week and I only do road riding. Great grip, wet or dry. Not going to be riding as much in the next year so hoping these will last a year which would be great as I have had to replace chain & sprocket a bit earlier than anticipated. £240...
Ouch! £240... I abused my first chain so changed chain + sprockets at about 8500 miles.

I went for a blingy over the top X-Ring DID gold thing, complete with a set of steel sprockets and then also bought an extra aluminium renthal rear sprocket with 2 less teeth. Still came to only £150 in total...

Took me an afternoon because the rear mudguard is fiddly but 2 hours labour seems a bit steep!
 

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K60 Scouts are fantastic I've heard milage up to 20,000 km ! ( thats a utube review not pacific to Scrambler ) but I only got 4500 kms on my MT60,s good all rounder but wear is poor , I agree Ladybishop about the Michelin P3,s they were better ( I have had them on my Triumph tiger 1050 sport ) and also the P4,s and rear GT you WILL NOT get a better traction tyre in the wet ! and durability isn't to bad , this also depends on the riding style I get around 8000 on a P4 and around 12000kms on front ( this is on my Tiger but I ride it like I stole it ) In Australia you cannot get P3,s anymore and they made the 18 front but the new 4,s don't , I do more adventure riding on my EU so I have gone with the K60 scouts they still handle well in the twisties but also in dirt and mud
Positives - Durability great for muddy gravaly dirt roads and still handle pretty good on sealed roads ( and look cool )
Negatives- Road noise at around 80kph and not good traction on wet sealed roads
 
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