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Well yeah :) I thought your statement meant to say that an original 5D trumped a modern APS camera. I'd rather have a full frame for video for more control over DOF.

But I don't do video and nobody has ever paid me to take a photo, so I may not know what I'm talking about. I just like dinking around with photography.
No, no, no...

Never meant to imply that the D7100 would not have superior performance to the original 5D. In fact, as far as high-ISO goes, it's prolly even on par with the MK2.

MK3 & 5D S, however would be a completely different story.

But again, it's really whats behind the camera that counts. Some of the best work you will ever see was shot back in the "stone age" of film.
 

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I am with tonyjuliano on this one. A few generations of camera can mean night and day difference. The sensors are ever evolving to deliver better and better performance. My 7D gets the grains in low light when I even bump it to 3200 ISO with a fast lens (f/2.8). Granted, that is a lot of ISO, but the new 5Ds is boasting double that at 6400. I am excited to see what kind of images will come out of that sensor.

Also, don't forget the image size. 7D puts out 18 MP images. More than enough for anyone really. The 5DS will spit out over 50 MP images. That is a lot of detail. The new sensor will be crispy for sure. That is an exponential evolutionary jump in sensor and the 7D and the 5DS are closer generationally than the 5D MkI and the D7100. The D7100 is a great camera and has a lot of built in "so-it-all-ness" that general consumers want. The 5D lineup is a professional level body. It all depends on what you are going to use them for.

To mirror what tony said earlier... I could slap $20 grand worth of camera and lens in a person's hand, and that does not mean that they will produce anything worth looking at. It is what is in the 8 inches behind the viewfinder that counts. If you know your way around a hobbyist camera and can crank that thing and know it's limitations, you will be able to produce images that move people.

I have much respect for film guys. They had to get it right, or very close. Every time they pulled the trigger it cost them money. Us, not so much.
 

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We're on the same page then. Most important part of photography is always the operator of the machinery.

I've still got a Cambo SC 4x5" camera and a fridge full of sheet film if I ever become un-lazy and shoot with it again. The Scrambler should have at least one large format photo of itself :)

Film got really expensive over the past five years though, so I've been slacking off the past few years. My profile avatar is from last fall. I was riding my BMW R90/6 and putting an expired roll of Kodak Tri-X through my Leica M2. I used to shoot multiple rolls of film per week, but have become really lazy. Mostly due to my film friends all moving away, so I have nobody to go out shooting with.
 

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We're on the same page then. Most important part of photography is always the operator of the machinery.

I've still got a Cambo SC 4x5" camera and a fridge full of sheet film if I ever become un-lazy and shoot with it again. The Scrambler should have at least one large format photo of itself :)

Film got really expensive over the past five years though, so I've been slacking off the past few years. My profile avatar is from last fall. I was riding my BMW R90/6 and putting an expired roll of Kodak Tri-X through my Leica M2. I used to shoot multiple rolls of film per week, but have become really lazy. Mostly due to my film friends all moving away, so I have nobody to go out shooting with.
No current digital image - full frame 35mm, medium format, whatever - will match the quality of that 4" x 5" film, not yet anyway.
 

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I also need to figure out how you're getting people to pay you :)

I have always refused to shoot photos of weddings though, because I'd suck at it since I hate being there.
Send me a PM - I can help you out. And I have NEVER willingly shot a wedding (did a favor for a friend once, though). Even the thought of wedding photography makes my skin crawl.
 

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I am with tonyjuliano To mirror what tony said earlier... I could slap $20 grand worth of camera and lens in a person's hand, and that does not mean that they will produce anything worth looking at. It is what is in the 8 inches behind the viewfinder that counts. If you know your way around a hobbyist camera and can crank that thing and know it's limitations, you will be able to produce images that move people.
This is VERY similar to what you see on motorcycle forums all the time (and since this IS a motorcycle forum)...

I love when guys crow about "my scrambler is awesome in the twisties, it can keep up with (insert random super-sport here) without any problem!"

Well, it really depends more on who is sitting in which seat, doesn't it?
 

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Send me a PM - I can help you out. And I have NEVER willingly shot a wedding (did a favor for a friend once, though). Even the thought of wedding photography makes my skin crawl.
I am going to hit you up as well if you don't mind. I am always looking to shoot with others. I have been wanting to expand my horizons a little myself.
 

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I am going to hit you up as well if you don't mind. I am always looking to shoot with others. I have been wanting to expand my horizons a little myself.
Sure thing...
 
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